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I'm disappointed with this model. I was close to buying the technica iv with steam levers for under $3000 and yet this seems inferior. If I leave it for a few months then there won't be any stock left in Australia. I like the levers and I don't like the look of the new model. Personal choice.
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Hi Barri,Originally posted by barri View PostI'm disappointed with this model. I was close to buying the technica iv with steam levers for under $3000 and yet this seems inferior. If I leave it for a few months then there won't be any stock left in Australia. I like the levers and I don't like the look of the new model. Personal choice.
Have you purchased a Slim, i wasn't sure from your post?
We have the slim in stock and also a Technika rotary with toggles. If you are still chasing a Tecknika for under $3000 then you might want to give me a call
Cheers
Antony
(03) 9530 8992
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I bought one of these, a Mechanika V, over the weekend to replace my venerable yet still fully functional Rancilio Silvia. After some initial confusion which was sorted out by the courteous vendor (a sponsor here) I pulled shots one and two today. Realistically I am sure the machine second, or third, on my short list would have made me just as happy with the coffee (one does not pay this money to buy a stovetop coffee cooker
). That said, I am exceptionally happy with my choice on all counts. This is a great machine in this range, satisfying me in coffee result, operation, build and aesthetics.
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For me the answer was in linear, square and cubic centimetres. Our kitchen is not small but even so, we have "a space" dedicated to coffee toys; the supplanted Rancilio Silivia was compact. As one of the two cooks in the kitchen I am OK with that.
Like I said, I am sure my other two on the short list, Diadema Junior Plus and Expobar Minore IV, would have done a fine job. So does the ECM and it is a little smaller or, dare I say, Slim.
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Thank you for your reply. And if you wee to compare the shot pulled from either of these two machines to the Breville BES920 would you say that there would be a noticeable difference...worth the extra $$ ??Originally posted by arcachon View PostThe most obvious one is the PID. The other difference is the smaller footprint of the ECM. Beyond that they are very comparable machines.
Just curious as I currently have a BES920 and am considering an upgrade as it is currently in for repairs...solenoid I believe...?
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Steffche your 2nd sentence is what you firstly would be well served to focus on.
What is not mentioned here often (or at all) is the longevity of trouble free use, and the ease of accessing parts or repairers with the
commercial based single G/H machines.
Verses the OEM appliance brands which closely control the supply line.
I am not or never been an owner of the brands or models of machines in this thread. I have however owned a number of machines to date including Domestic Appliance brand machines and Commercial single G/H.
Espresso coffee to me is like a stepladder whether it be -
1/ Beans, 2/ Grinder, 3/ Barista, 4/ Water conditioning, 5/ Machine.
Each and every choice can lift you up or drop you down a rung or 2.
With No. 3 with the most influence (then 1,2,4,5 imho)
Obv. with out the machine nothing else is required.
Of course depends on how much effort & input you wish to apply to your coffee satisfaction.
GL with your choice.
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This is 100% correct. The best machine in the world will suffer if you fall short on the other 4 aspects, with 1 and 4 being the easiest to address.Originally posted by EspressoAdventurer View PostEspresso coffee to me is like a stepladder whether it be -
1/ Beans, 2/ Grinder, 3/ Barista, 4/ Water conditioning, 5/ Machine.
Each and every choice can lift you up or drop you down a rung or 2.
With No. 3 with the most influence (then 1,2,4,5 imho)
Obv. with out the machine nothing else is required.
Of course depends on how much effort & input you wish to apply to your coffee satisfaction.
GL with your choice.
In answer to the question about shot quality from the E61 machines vs the Breville I'll work on the assumption the point 1-4 are all taken care of. In my opinion you will definitely get a better (and more consistent) shot from the E61 machines. As for being worth the extra money? Well that comes down to personal preference. The vast majority of coffee drinkers out there would likely say 'no', citing that it still all tastes like coffee and the $1500 gap could be spent elsewhere. Me personally I would say 'yes'. If I'm on 2-3 coffees a day then over a 5 year period its coming down to around 30c per coffee extra. Is the improved quality worth the extra 30c? Absolutely!!
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Thanks for your inputs guys. I really appreciate it.Originally posted by arcachon View PostThis is 100% correct. The best machine in the world will suffer if you fall short on the other 4 aspects, with 1 and 4 being the easiest to address.
In answer to the question about shot quality from the E61 machines vs the Breville I'll work on the assumption the point 1-4 are all taken care of. In my opinion you will definitely get a better (and more consistent) shot from the E61 machines. As for being worth the extra money? Well that comes down to personal preference. The vast majority of coffee drinkers out there would likely say 'no', citing that it still all tastes like coffee and the $1500 gap could be spent elsewhere. Me personally I would say 'yes'. If I'm on 2-3 coffees a day then over a 5 year period its coming down to around 30c per coffee extra. Is the improved quality worth the extra 30c? Absolutely!!
I must say I am pretty fussy when it comes to coffee. I am on the road alot, and mostly in the south eastern suburbs of Melbourne where I find are the best and most consistent cafes around, I often but my coffee from some fairly hipster Barista's.
I ripped out my old BES900 today and pulled a few shots, and actually found them to be so much better than I was ever able to get with my BES920. I always suspected this when I first opened my 920 out of the biox, and I wished I hadn't, so I could have returned it to the store for a full refund, as the BES900 was doing its job. Only reason I decided to upgrade was for the ability to descale at home, which wasnt worth it in the end.
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Originally posted by Casa Espresso View PostHi Grillsy,
Welcome to the forum.
I am not sure where you might have read or seen that? Definitely not the case.
The German made ECMs are amongst the best finished machines on the market. Their group head is their own tweeked E61 unit and is very heat stable.
Added when the machine is set up by your Australian seller, a properly calibrated HX machine does not need a cooling flush.
As Yelta has said, feel free to give me a call and i can go through it with you in more detail
cheers
Antony
(03) 9530 8992
www.casaespresso.com.au
Hi Antony,
Can you explain what a proper Hx setup would be that would eliminate the need for a cooling flush? The cooling flush is one of the reasons I am staying away from a Hx for my next machine but I could surely save $$ by going with one.
Thanks,
Martino
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