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  • New Machine Advice - 2k - 3k Budget

    So Ive had a BES900 for about 7 years now, and its about time I upgraded (although the BES900 is really a cracker of a machine for the price). Machine gets a reasonable workout (4 lattes morning weekdays, 6 each weekend day) plus I usually do family functions etc.

    My understanding from all the reading is that the jump from 2-3k isnt so great in terms of tech - but Id be willing to make the jump if longevity / features / serviceability can be shown.

    Shortlist so far:

    Bezzera Z10 (like quick heatup, especially coming from a BES900)
    Profitec 500
    Decent Espresso (Dark horse, who knows about reliability, but like the approach to solving what is essentially an engineering problem).

    Open to recommendations as well.

    Thanks!

  • #2
    If your Breville is still working well and ticking your boxes, why not hang on to it a bit longer.
    • The Decent isn't yet available and accepting pre-orders only.

    • The Bezzera BZ10 has a heated grouphead which is designed to provide better thermostabilty rather than faster heat up time. It has a smaller footprint than the Profitec if bench space is an issue.

    • The Profitec has a larger boiler so might provide a bit more steaming oomph for your family functions.

    There are plenty of other good HXs in the sub-$3k range. Eg ECM Technica or Mechanica, Rocket Appartamento, Lelit Mara, etc. If you can get along to a shop that sells a large range of machines, you will get a better idea.
    What about a grinder? What do you have at the moment?

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    • #3
      Thanks for the reply!

      RE: Breville - yeah its been a tough decision to move on, but all good things must eventually come to an end. It has a few small issues that I could fix but CBF (collar is starting to let portafilter slip, screen screw is stripped, steam wand needs a new seal). And besides I feel like Im ready for something new and shiny.

      I think visiting a shop would be a good idea - whose in inner SE melbourne?

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      • #4
        Check the list of site sponsors near the bottom of this page. Antony from Casa Espresso in Brighton is a regular contributor to the CS community. There are other non-sponsor coffee machine vendors in and around Melbourne of course but you'll have to search for them.

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        • #5
          Thanks for the referral Flynn

          Howser we have the :
          BZ 10 https://www.casaespresso.com.au/bezzera-bz10.html
          ECM Mechanika https://www.casaespresso.com.au/ecm-mechanika.html
          Izzo Vivi PID https://www.casaespresso.com.au/izzo-vivi-pid.html
          CIME CO 01 https://www.casaespresso.com.au/cime-01.html

          All in stock amongst others that are worth considering

          Feel free to call or PM if you would like to come and have a look in person

          Cheers

          Antony
          (03) 9530 8992
          www.casaespresso.com.au

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          • #6
            Thanks for all the replies!

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            • #7
              OK Im back on the hunt!

              Looking for some feedback on my shortlist for machines:

              BZ10
              Profitec 500
              Mitica
              Maybe the ECM Slim or a Lelit Dual Boiler.

              Both of the Bezzeras can be had for a good price (Mitica same as profitec) and I like the joysticks. However, the engineering looks a bit neater / more robust on the german designed machines.

              The mitica has the benefit of the rotary - but I just feel the profitec would be a better "Machine".

              Thoughts and feedback appreciated!

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              • #8
                Just bought the ECM and loving it. Plenty of steam and nice small footprint and makes great coffee. Best price I found was from Crema Coffee Garage in Brisbane (or Newcastle) great and great people to deal with, thoroughly recommended.

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                • #9
                  Thanks Glint.

                  Another thought that occured today - what kind of maintenance routine is required with these machines? (Ie. weekly backflushes, etc)

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