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Tampit, just wondering if the Decent would just add the complication of needing the tablet at ninety degrees or other angle?
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G'day rogerwilcoOriginally posted by rogerwilco View PostFor anybody following along at home... it turns out that space isn’t as tight as I thought.
Three different configurations are going to work just fine.
Option 1. Original idea. Not great, because it gonna real awkward. But it’s possible.
Option 2. Go on an angle. Turns out @level3ninja was right on the money. This is probably the most efficient in terms of space and function.
Option 3. Put it on castors, and tuck it away sideways.
Option 4. Put it on the bench, on a piece of bench that isn’t too critical for other things.
That mockup box is the dimensions of a Rocket Mozzafiato. Clearance above is a little bit tight under the shelf. But I can get a jug in there to pour water, so it’s no problem.
So, problem solved... I can buy whatever machine I want. Man, if only I could be like most other people, and think less about some of this stuff, I could save a lot time. Then again, there’s been plenty of times where ‘seemed like a good idea at the time’ turned out to a bad decision later.
Thanks all for your previous contributions. Helpful!
Possibly over budget, however my DE1 is about 230W, 430H (includes the tablet, which could be angled differently or even moved "elsewhere") and around 400 deep including the power cord and catering kit (I still have about 50mm spare of a 450mm deep bench without pushing everything back as far as I can).
All stainless, ceramic and high quality teflon tubing internals, metal casing. I expect it to outlast me as after 8 months it is still like new. As a bonus, it keeps itself pretty clean (1/4 the maintenance of any other machine I have used) and is easy to live with.
The other thing about the Decent DE1 - you can choose to tinker endlessly (preinfusion, temp, pressure and flow profiling using as many steps as you wish) or just press "start" and repeat the last shot. Very SWMBO friendly.
TampIt
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The great thing about tanks is that every home has drive thru access if you accelerate hard enough
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Haha. Very good. Every home with a coffee machine obviously should have tank access.
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Totally agree. Not allowing enough tank access can have undesirable consequences.Originally posted by coffee_mum View PostMake sure you check out the tank access before you buy, it was an important point when I was deciding which machine to go under corner overhead cupboards, one I looked at only had pouring hole, not good in a tight spot.
(Sorry, couldn't help myself!)
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Make sure you check out the tank access before you buy, it was an important point when I was deciding which machine to go under corner overhead cupboards, one I looked at only had pouring hole, not good in a tight spot.
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I'd forget about the alcove altogether and put the machine in front of the left-hand power point, so that the left edge of the machine aligns with the junction of the bench top and alcove.
The alcove where you plan to install the machine I would use to store all your accessories such as tamper, scales, pitcher etc.
Alternatively, it may be possible to remove that board (saw it off) from the height of the bench top to the cupboards above providing it is not supporting those cupbooards.
I had to live for 10 years with a hefty 2-group machine in a corner with the sink on one side and cooktops on the other---and it always annoyed me and I felt for my wife whose kitchen real estate has been taken away from her.
A few months ago I bought a flat pack bench, built a bench top for it and now it's a self-contained coffee station near the dining area.
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Another option, just to throw a spanner in the works
, a La Spaziale mini vivaldi. The overhang would be about 85mm, but they're only 385mm tall, so plenty of space for cups and the water refill is from the front.
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For anybody following along at home... it turns out that space isn’t as tight as I thought.
Three different configurations are going to work just fine.
Option 1. Original idea. Not great, because it gonna real awkward. But it’s possible.
Option 2. Go on an angle. Turns out @level3ninja was right on the money. This is probably the most efficient in terms of space and function.
Option 3. Put it on castors, and tuck it away sideways.
Option 4. Put it on the bench, on a piece of bench that isn’t too critical for other things.
That mockup box is the dimensions of a Rocket Mozzafiato. Clearance above is a little bit tight under the shelf. But I can get a jug in there to pour water, so it’s no problem.
So, problem solved... I can buy whatever machine I want. Man, if only I could be like most other people, and think less about some of this stuff, I could save a lot time. Then again, there’s been plenty of times where ‘seemed like a good idea at the time’ turned out to a bad decision later.
Thanks all for your previous contributions. Helpful!
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Looks like you and I walking down same path....
Could you sit the machine on a lazy Susan? My thoughts on the matter is that machines in this price range become an integral part of the kitchen and should be on show, not hidden in the corner.
Looking forward to see which way you go.
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I wouldn't bank on it...Originally posted by rogerwilco View PostSo, I trust they found a solution where it’s not illegal.
At the very least the globe should be protected such that if broken, the electrodes inside can not be accidentally contacted. Situations exist where even RCD Safety Devices will not protect you. I'd be especially concerned where curious, tiny fingers are likely to be around...
If wired to an Extra Low Voltage supply as 'ninja mentioned, all will be Ok.
Mal.
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Cool idea, and I could see it working for lots of people. No good for me though. 90% duty on this will be my morning coffee. No way I’m gonna wheel it in/out every day. Inevitably it’d end up floating around the kitchen in a semi-permanent way. There’s not really anywhere to wheel it to anyway. Also: I’m allergic to power plugs and cables. I just hate ‘em. I want to plug it in once, and never see the cables, ever again!Originally posted by Dimal View PostYep, agree re: the light fitting. Lots of things can go wrong there, even if fixed...
Quite a few CSers have mounted all of their coffee hardware on a mobile benchtop (some adapted from Ikea standards), with caster wheels.
Keep in a convenient storage location when not in use, wheel out when coffee calls.
Might be a solution...
Mal.
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Is it? I wouldn’t know, but I do remember it getting discussed during build between architect and builder. So, I trust they found a solution where it’s not illegal. Thanks for the heads up.Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
P.S. as an electrician I have to say that wall light is bleeding ridiculous (and if it screws out like a normal bulb and has 240V inside is also illegal, if it's fixed or ELV it's legal but obtuse)
There’s probably more practical ways to light that dark corner... In context to the surrounding rooms and overall lighting plan though, this style does make sense.
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