Hi all,
Looking for a new machine, upgrading from the plastic stuff found in department stores...
So far i've narrowed it down to 4 machines. I originally wanted to stick to a ~2k budget and that allowed me
1. (Used) ECM Barista
2. (Used) ECM Mechanika IV no PID
3. (Used) Profitec Pro 500 no PID
Wanted to ask your opinions on which machine I should get in terms of longevity and will hold good value for a long number of years (includes serviceability). I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon. But for about another ~1k I could get a brand new:
4. ECM Technika V PID
no. 4 feels to me the most as it has everything I want in terms of rotary pump, 12 month warranty, SS boiler (yes I prefer them...)
For the first 3, whilst I don't really mind choosing between vibe pumps or copper boilers (as they are in the 2k range) - i'm fine with either way.
It mainly comes down to evaluating whether PID is worth the extra 1k. As I said I want it to last as i'm not considering to upgrade again, so it got me thinking if I would be missing out much in future if I do want to play around with temperatures as I prefer lighter bean roasts and switch between med/dark roasts.
My question is to the users, how much useful actually is the PID on these newer hx machines? (they are relatively accurate temps) Has it improved the way you made shots in anyway? (time is takes to make back to back coffee, quality of coffee changed, more stable temps, quirks you had to get used to on previous hx machines that you don't have to now, or even new tricks you had to do that made PID hx more frustrating - just anything and everything) Would it be worth the upgrade for an extra 1k?
..... Of course I could just go get a dual boiler, but I think that's another debate.
Looking for a new machine, upgrading from the plastic stuff found in department stores...
So far i've narrowed it down to 4 machines. I originally wanted to stick to a ~2k budget and that allowed me
1. (Used) ECM Barista
2. (Used) ECM Mechanika IV no PID
3. (Used) Profitec Pro 500 no PID
Wanted to ask your opinions on which machine I should get in terms of longevity and will hold good value for a long number of years (includes serviceability). I don't plan to upgrade anytime soon. But for about another ~1k I could get a brand new:
4. ECM Technika V PID
no. 4 feels to me the most as it has everything I want in terms of rotary pump, 12 month warranty, SS boiler (yes I prefer them...)
For the first 3, whilst I don't really mind choosing between vibe pumps or copper boilers (as they are in the 2k range) - i'm fine with either way.
It mainly comes down to evaluating whether PID is worth the extra 1k. As I said I want it to last as i'm not considering to upgrade again, so it got me thinking if I would be missing out much in future if I do want to play around with temperatures as I prefer lighter bean roasts and switch between med/dark roasts.
My question is to the users, how much useful actually is the PID on these newer hx machines? (they are relatively accurate temps) Has it improved the way you made shots in anyway? (time is takes to make back to back coffee, quality of coffee changed, more stable temps, quirks you had to get used to on previous hx machines that you don't have to now, or even new tricks you had to do that made PID hx more frustrating - just anything and everything) Would it be worth the upgrade for an extra 1k?
..... Of course I could just go get a dual boiler, but I think that's another debate.





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