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Help me compare these second hand machine options!
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How old is the Rocket? If it’s less than about 7-8yrs old then it’s probably the best option. If it’s much older than that then the VBM will beat it for build and parts quality. The VBM Domobar Super is a very good machine. It is susceptible to a couple of known issues (eg. corrosion and leaks around end of boiler), but if it’s been well maintained and/or repaired and looks clean inside then it would be worth considering for the right price. Almost endlessly repairable until the cost outweighs the benefits so longevity isn’t an issue.
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I'm not sure you should expect more longevity out of those machines than the BDB if both machines are well maintained. I haven't had any problems with mine and I've been using it for 4 years and got it second hand before that :/
How much work they'd need depends on how well they're maintained. If you don't mind doing things yourself then an E61 system should be cheap enough to look after and fix. Shouldn't be too hard to find parts for any of those machines I think.
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Help me compare these second hand machine options!
Hi all,
I sold my Breville Dual Boiler a few months back and been living with my Flair manual press and Bellman for milk since, but getting a little over the somewhat involved manual process. Looking to get a machine back on the kitchen bench. It'll be making a couple of milk based drinks, twice a day plus occasional extras. So that's the brief... Beyond that, something simple enough for my wife to use unsupervised, and thatcthat jump straight from shot pulling to milk texturing is important. Budget is ideally around $1k, but some wiggle room, and plan to keep using Compak K3 grinder for time being.
The BDB ticked a lot of boxes, but the longevity of a European machine is appealing, but at the same time it's a world of options I'm not that familiar with! So just thought I'd throw up some specific options I have come across and get thoughts.
So, the options I'm currently looking at are:
- Expobar Office Control
- Bezzera BZ02
- Rocket Giotto
- Isomac Millennium
- VBM Domobar Super
The first 3 options are trade in machines at a local shop that sells commercial and prosumer machines. Pricing is probably a little overs, particularly on the first two machines, but paying a premium for a machine bought from a reputable, local retailer with all required repairs and servicing done and some after sales care in case of initial issues. Some of these machines are likely 15 years old already - at what point do machines such as these become costly to service and maintain?
My understanding is all machines should be capable of good results, and some look better than others. The Rocket and the VBM are also a little pricier, but possibly worth the extra.
Any advice from those familiar with these machines?
Thanks,
Damien

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