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  • Kat
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    Ive ordered the Lelit Combi and am looking forward eagerly to its arrival! Thanks everyone for your input. Much appreciated!
    Kat

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  • redzone121
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    I know where youre coming from. When I first ventured into these murky waters my wifes initial reaction to the likely cost of a grinder cant be printed in a public forum! I had to physically ready myself when I approached the actual machine cost with her! It was a matter of yelling it from as far away as possible and then running.

    Nice "Wrecker"  ;D

    Kat, if you are anything remotely like any of us, go for what set up will make the best coffee or else you will end up with an auto machine for sale a month or 2 down the track  
    CB

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  • Wrecker
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    I know where youre coming from. When I first ventured into these murky waters my wifes initial reaction to the likely cost of a grinder cant be printed in a public forum! I had to physically ready myself when I approached the actual machine cost with her! It was a matter of yelling it from as far away as possible and then running.

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  • TC
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    Originally posted by Kat link=1214279862/20#32 date=1214531524
    Thanks for the advice everyone, actually when I put the price range down I simply did so because that was the range that said you could get stainless steel and hubby wanted stainless steel, he said to find out info. and his two pre-requisites were stainless and all in one.
    I wont be putting the foot down, I am just thrilled that hes even saying yes.  You see, I first got the Krups in my home by noticing it for free in the flybuys with enough points, I got that one through the use of its something for nothing so why not choose something Id never be allowed to buy! it worked wonders and I got it here.  After him being a total espresso is awful kind of person he now quite enjoys me making one! I am on cloud 9 that he wants to get me something for my birthday that is not a rainwater tank or something we need so Im happy to go on the few restrictions he has given me.  I think the Lelit is more convincing on the price range too and Im just so pleased that he wants to spoil me.
    Thinking seriously of going the Lelit Combi, hubby stayed up till all hours last night to look into it more with me, the only concern, being a technician himself is that it looks like there is only one company in the whole of Australia who know anything about this machine and he is a one man band so what happens then if things so wrong.  He also is at a loss as to why its so important to have such an expensive tamper and wonders what other options there are.  
    We arent big spenders as a rule, this is quite the exception and only because he wants to spoil me!

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  • GregJW
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    Hey again Kat,

    The LeLit retailer has a good rep., when I got mine it had been bench tested and ready to go, Ive had no problems and you dont hear any bad stories at all about these machines, and it comes with a 12 month back to base warranty.

    Just read the instructions properly before use (especially the bit about priming before use and re-priming the boiler after steaming) and keep the box it comes in.

    Greg

    PS. A good tamper is a must. We googled and picked one up for about $50 (timber handle on 57mm stainless steel base) but Id also consider paying extra for a Pullman.

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  • Kat
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    Thanks for the advice everyone, actually when I put the price range down I simply did so because that was the range that said you could get stainless steel and hubby wanted stainless steel, he said to find out info. and his two pre-requisites were stainless and all in one.
    I wont be putting the foot down, I am just thrilled that hes even saying yes. You see, I first got the Krups in my home by noticing it for free in the flybuys with enough points, I got that one through the use of its something for nothing so why not choose something Id never be allowed to buy! it worked wonders and I got it here. After him being a total espresso is awful kind of person he now quite enjoys me making one! I am on cloud 9 that he wants to get me something for my birthday that is not a rainwater tank or something we need so Im happy to go on the few restrictions he has given me. I think the Lelit is more convincing on the price range too and Im just so pleased that he wants to spoil me.
    Thinking seriously of going the Lelit Combi, hubby stayed up till all hours last night to look into it more with me, the only concern, being a technician himself is that it looks like Coffee Connoisseurs are the only company in the whole of Australia who know anything about this machine and he is a one man band so what happens then if things so wrong. He also is at a loss as to why its so important to have such an expensive tamper and wonders what other options there are.
    We arent big spenders as a rule, this is quite the exception and only because he wants to spoil me!

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  • yeeza
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    Originally posted by Wrecker link=1214279862/20#29 date=1214522225
    Or theres always the "just put your foot down because your the wife" option.  As a husband I can testify that that approach has an irritatingly high success rate!   ;D
    ;D ;D ;D

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  • buff
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    Hi Kat,
    I just cant get my head around a bloke not wanting more gadgets, and being worried about a clear bench space....you poor thing !!!
    I offer no solutions but to try and explain to hubby how much it would mean to you if he could give up a tiny bit of his beloved bench to accomodate equipment that will serve you both well for many years, instead of compromising on a machine that will more than likely end up sitting on the bench being under-utilised.
    Maybe if you have enough room in your dining room, you could set up a small table/bench to have your coffee  stuff, separate from the kitchen bench ??? Be creative and look for solutions...dont compromise !!!
    In SA, Mark at The Coffee Barun would be good to talk to if you wanted someone local.
    Good luck!
    Cheers,
    buff

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  • Wrecker
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    Kat, Im a brand new snob and a total newbie to home espresso. I too am going through the motions of buying a home espresso setup with the same budget as you. I know your pain.

    The advice being given with regard to "you should reconsider the combo idea" is worth listening too. Im certainly no expert but I have had the opportunity to see and taste the difference between these combo machines, autos and the like and frankly I just wouldnt even consider spending upto $3K on any of them. The difference in quality of beverage produced when compared to a good grinder matched with a good HX machine is chalk and cheese.

    Perhaps approach hubby with this scenario: All experience and knowledge suggests that the grind is critical to good espresso. What do we do if our machine does a decent job but we discover its the damn inbuilt grinder that is letting us down? Worse, your research is showing that the combos involve certain compromises - but for the same money you can buy a no compromise machine and pair it with a no compromise grinder.

    Or theres always the "just put your foot down because your the wife" option. As a husband I can testify that that approach has an irritatingly high success rate! ;D

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  • TC
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    Originally posted by JavaB link=1214279862/20#27 date=1214485149
    Kat,

    Many CS members would die if they had access to the budget you have!

    You can afford really top shelf machines which will make you great espresso given a little effort on your part. The only problem you have to overcome is having them in one box..... Would you build an oven into a fridge? No because they have separate and clear functions.... which dont really "get on together"..... even though they are both used to prepare food.

    Great coffee machines dont have grinders built in.... neither do great grinders come installed in coffee machines.... they end up being two separate units - in close proximity to each other.....

    Maybe something like KK suggested above is worth a thought...... after all Ill bet hubby doesnt store his lawnmower in the boot of the car (together with his golf clubs maybe ;D ;D)!
    Like all of the others, I would aslo recommend that you do it properly if you want great coffee and purchase a separate machine and a good (maybe small) grinder? This should hopefully keep SO happy. Please feel most welcome to call if youd like to discuss some pros and cons and get some more information.

    regards

    Chris

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  • JavaB
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    Kat,

    Many CS members would die if they had access to the budget you have!

    You can afford really top shelf machines which will make you great espresso given a little effort on your part. The only problem you have to overcome is having them in one box..... Would you build an oven into a fridge? No because they have separate and clear functions.... which dont really "get on together"..... even though they are both used to prepare food.

    Great coffee machines dont have grinders built in.... neither do great grinders come installed in coffee machines.... they end up being two separate units - in close proximity to each other.....

    Maybe something like KK suggested above is worth a thought...... after all Ill bet hubby doesnt store his lawnmower in the boot of the car (together with his golf clubs maybe ;D ;D)!

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  • Koffee_Kosmo
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    Kat
    Just an idea for the benchtop
    Have a sliding base made, to slide into a cupboard,
    The equipment sits on this to allow access and storage

    That will satisfy the hubby and you get the best equipment you can afford

    If you want to show off the machine you could leave the cupboard doors open or have them made in glass

    KK

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  • Kat
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    Actually, I just read all the info. on it and Im not impressed, it looks tooooo automatic, doesnt look like you actually make the coffee or need any skill, looks like it just does it all itself, not really what Im interested in. Im interested in making coffee, the real way, and want to learn how to roast, how to grind and all the rest. Thinking again Im wondering if I should talk hubby into letting me just get a grinder which is what I wanted in the first place and just get that bit right before going for a better machine. Its just that its another thing in the kitchen and he likes a clean clear bench with nothing on it.

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  • GregJW
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    Sorry Kat, you jumped in there with that Jura idea while I was typing my last post.

    Juras are superautomatic machines which basically do everything for you. Not very popular around these parts as they generally (from my limited experience and what others have said) make mediocre coffee and require lots of maintenance over a relatively limited lifespan.

    Nevertheless, Juras are said to have the best reputation in this class and you should be able to find one in your budget.

    If you go this road, my previous last paragraph still applies.

    Greg

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  • GregJW
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    Yeah, I gotta concur with TG. IF I had $3000 to spend on coffee making gear (big if) Id forget about the combi idea. Id get a good quality grinder as first priority, after trying some out (eg. Mazzer, Macap, Compak) - say, about $700. Then try out as many HX machines as I could (eg Giotto, VBM, Bezzera, Diadema, etc) and try and get one for about $2200 (stock-take time at present - deals can be made, especially if youre getting a package!). And with the extra $100 get a Pullman tamper.

    Anyway, thats what Id do. Whatever you do but, Kat, make sure you use good, FRESH beans and learn as much about how to use your gear properly as you can, so you get the most out of your investment and the most enjoyment from it.

    Greg

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