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  • EspressoAdventurer
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    Originally posted by Wimmera View Post
    Regarding the Single shot basket I have also read the many posts that is best to leave them in the draw.

    I think a process that works in single shot basket with work in a double shot basket.
    Conversely a process that works in a double shot basket may fail in a single shot basket.

    Good luck in your journey.
    C25 every one to their own. Thats prob the reason Why you now have a home machine.
    And You can pull the shot you want.

    Note / remember
    "The aim" of the barista is to balance the heat/pressure/flow of the machine by providing the optimal resistance in the puck setup.

    If you wish, look up my prev posts, which are numerous around the setup of a single basket, Ive laid it out prev..

    My wife, daughter and S.i L. still prefer my single basket traditional 8oz flat white over anything else I offer them.
    I used to but now if I pull myself a single it'll be a picolo latte.
    So measurements matter to balance flavour in the cup to suit varying palettes.

    And as Wimmera says its a different setting grind wise for a single to a dble / triple.
    A single shot in my exp requires a courser setting.
    Accuracy matters. Fresh roast is of utmost importance to hold up and not channel.

    Marking grind settings for each basket makes it easier in the early days and helps you understand whats goin on.
    I run many basket sizes and pull them back to back, so I s'pose thats a benefit of pulling your own espresso.
    But as seen thats not trad in current speciality coffee land.

    *Tip look up 5cent rule and dose what the machine/basket allows without overfilling.
    You can Then backtrack on dose weight if you wish from there.

    Ive never run a Lelit, but have a Single Boiler non HX and I usually pull the shot(s) then go into heat for silking the milk from there.
    Either way the minutes in between are usually a 'comeon comeon' affairs.

    GL Report back on your journey C25

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  • Wimmera
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    Regarding the Single shot basket I have also read the many posts that is best to leave them in the draw.

    However the single shot basket is the one I use 95% of the time and the EM6910 is the machine that just keeps chugging along with a few repairs from myself. My tastes may not be up to the expectations of others here as I also have milk based coffee. But then as you are steaming I can safely assume you also have milk based coffee. The odd time I get the Double shot out for guests I find no real difference in the cup.
    I am fairly fussy with my distribution, basically my procedure is grind into basket / distribute / tap / lightly tamp / grind / distribute / tap / tamp with light finishing polish twist. My wife says I take far to long although she rarely joins me in having a cuppa.

    I think a process that works in single shot basket with work in a double shot basket.
    Conversely a process that works in a double shot basket may fail in a single shot basket.

    Good luck in your journey.

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  • cubic25
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    Originally posted by kofekitt View Post
    You should be pushing the steam button again to exit steam mode, not the coffee button - this 'auto re primes' the boiler by pumping water through it for approx 30 sec's and brings the temp back down to brew temp
    Update.
    it didn't make a difference.
    How long am I meant to be waiting?
    I waited about 2 minutes. It just gets to 3/4 with 93 flashing and doesn't move. I hit the coffee button to see if that would make a difference and steam came out of the group head. I gave it another few seconds and it was still flashing 93.
    I just gave up and pulled my shot.

    Edit: I'm just going to make the coffee first for now on.

    Edit edit: just saw a tutorial that says the steam wand has to be on during the cool down period. I'll try that.
    Last edited by cubic25; 21 May 2022, 11:18 AM.

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  • cubic25
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    Originally posted by kofekitt View Post
    You should be pushing the steam button again to exit steam mode, not the coffee button - this 'auto re primes' the boiler by pumping water through it for approx 30 sec's and brings the temp back down to brew temp
    Thanks for the tip. Noted.

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  • level3ninja
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    In short, not really. Something with flow profiling will definitely help though.

  • kofekitt
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    You should be pushing the steam button again to exit steam mode, not the coffee button - this 'auto re primes' the boiler by pumping water through it for approx 30 sec's and brings the temp back down to brew temp

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  • cubic25
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    Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
    Did someone promise you that this machine would make single baskets easy?
    No. I just had it in my head that a more expensive machine would be easier to pull singles. When I was having issues with our previous machine, I looked up threads on the problem. Because I only saw threads about Sunbeam machines.....because that's what I googled, I concluded that the machine was the issue and not that single baskets are a problem across the board.

    Is there a machine that can pull singles?
    I don't mind using the double. It's still less coffee than what I was using in the Sunbeam.

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  • level3ninja
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    Bringing them up in the free class is a good idea. I haven't used a Kate specifically, but when you're switching a single boiler from steam to brew, it speeds things up quite a bit to flush some water out of the group.

    Single baskets are their own small world of pain. Did someone promise you that this machine would make single baskets easy? I'd be asking for a refund. The less coffee in the basket the smaller the margin for error in puck prep etc.

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  • Mono
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    Can’t help you with Ms Kate but in regards to single baskets I doubt you will find many fans here. I personally can’t remember even getting one wet in the few machines I have owned. I also only dose @ 18.5 grams for a double. From memory I think a single is actually only ~8gram dose.

    should have added single dose baskets are notoriously finicky, I would expect that flow/pressure control would be beneficial….
    Last edited by Mono; 19 May 2022, 09:43 PM.

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  • cubic25
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    Lelit Kate - A few qustions

    Hey all,

    I felt like upgrading from our Sunbeam EM6910. There was nothing particularly wrong with it, except that I could never really pull a single shot. Doubles were fantastic, but singles seemed impossible. It's also nice not having to use so much coffee to pull shots. (16g single, 24g double.....or thereabouts)

    We got the Lelit Kate yesterday and I feel like I've wasted $2k.
    We nearly went through 100g of coffee yesterday trying to perfect the single basket. Couldn't get it right.
    I set the grinder back to factory settings and pulled a near perfect double shot first time. This was with the grinder set to default and dosing set to 10 seconds.

    -How many grams are other Lelit Kate owners using in a singe basket?
    -Should I try a different basket?

    My second gripe is with frothing procedure.
    We let the steamer get to temp, 140c, froth our milk, and then push the 'coffee' button and wait for the machine to drop to 93c........and wait........and wait.
    The bar got about 3/4 of the way up and just stopped.
    I eventually just got annoyed and pulled a shot anyway. Only after I pulled the shot, did the temperature display go to normal.
    -What are we doing wrong?

    We have a free class with the retailer I bought the machine off, so I'll bring up my issues when we do that. I just thought some other Kate users could offer some advice.

    Thanks.

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