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  • #16
    Re: Which Grinder?

    Im afraid the supermarket beans will be a waste. They will be stale and will grind differently to fresh beans--and no matter what you do the coffee will be sub-par.

    The grind for each bean batch will be different, and will also vary due to the age of the beans, the humidity, and the temperature, (and the way you hold your tongue!), so there are no hard and fast answers. A little experimenting will soon have you in the right ballpark.

    On my Macap the usual max-min range is only about 4 rotations of the winder, so I am rarely far enough out to have to discard a shot as undrinkable. And I have about 3 different coffees on the go at any one time!

    Greg

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    • #17
      Re: Which Grinder?

      Theres some great info on how to get the best out of your machine and grinder here "Oonga"...
      http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-guide.html

      Well worth your time to read and implement.....

      Cheers,
      Mal.

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      • #18
        Re: Which Grinder?

        Greg,

        yes well i just happened to find some old supermarket beans that are at least about a month old as in that is how long i have had them LOL
        they were so bland there was no taste to it really!! I cant believe that those beans used to taste ok in my pre coffee snob days, now they are like not drinking coffee!!!
        i hate to sound like my mother who is a turkish coffee addict but it was like dirty water so to speak.

        in regards to the practice i meant getting used to how much difference it will make to the grind depending on how much i wind it either way for coarseness or fineness.
        But i guess you make a valid point that really it will be a case of different beans and roasts having different needs.

        It was weird when we did our little course, we noticed with our grinder that although i was twisting towards finer the grind started to get coarser after a few twists LOL Even Chris asked me which way i was grinding LOL then after another 2 full twists it went finer again, so i guess that is what i meant by getting to know my grinder and its quirks

        Which Macap do you have?


        oh and i forgot to add that i got an email at almost 5pm to say my beans have been shipped 8-)

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        • #19
          Re: Which Grinder?

          Thanks Mal,
          off to read now

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          • #20
            Re: Which Grinder?

            Just a quick note of clarification here. Oongas partner trained on a silver stepped version of the M4D. These are pretty scarce these days as most people prefer the bling of the chrome micrometric version. In this grinder, I actually like the stepped version more

            Chris
            Oonga
            That is the one I have apparently they are scarce as hens teeth as Chris has already noted
            I love it and I dont have a bad word to say about it as it has served me faithfully

            However back to the stepless answer, the Iberital grinder has a very fine adjusting thread size that is the reason why you require many many turns to see any results

            Whereas the Macap has its adjustment on the large ring collar with a larger thread (less turns needed) just under the bean hopper and easier to adjust than the Iberital
            I believe Chris can confirm this when you see him on your next visit

            They are a different class of machine

            KK

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            • #21
              Re: Which Grinder?

              hahahhaha yes i havent stopped hearing about what a different class of machine they are :

              KK do you find your machine leaves much of a mess??

              by mess i dont mean ground coffee around the machine, I mean ground coffee flying off and spitting a metre away?

              That is one reason i want to try the dosered version.

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              • #22
                Re: Which Grinder?

                KK do you find your machine leaves much of a mess??

                by mess i dont mean ground coffee around the machine, I mean ground coffee flying off and spitting a metre away?

                That is one reason i want to try the dosered version.
                A quick answer is no it does not disperse coffee all over the place it is very clean and easy to live with


                Have a look at this discussion thread
                http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1213487719

                Also have a look at this video to see how clean the design works
                http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Hg2JX_oky-o

                KK

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                • #23
                  Re: Which Grinder?

                  Thanks for that KK

                  sounds like a really great machine!!!!

                  My partner said he noticed it wasnt all that messy either when he used it

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                  • #24
                    Re: Which Grinder?

                    Thank you to everyone for their input with this grinder thread

                    we now have the M4D machine that my partner used at the training session *YAY*

                    first thing Chris said was "didnt take you long to come back" :P

                    Funny thing is when KK wrote that next time we go to see Chris ..... I remember thinking hmmmmm fancy KK just assuming that we will be back, : ;D

                    So now it will be a case of selling the Iberital.

                    I am going to make a coffee soon and I cant wait ;D

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                    • #25
                      Re: Which Grinder?

                      Or keep the Iberital for taking on holidays.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Which Grinder?

                        hahahaha that is what Chris suggested as well.

                        I will try and sell it but if nothing comes of it i wont stress I guess.

                        Because really i cant see us lugging a machine around on holidays LOL

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                        • #27
                          Re: Which Grinder?

                          Buy an Aeropress.
                          That and the Iberital will take up very little room and weight.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Which Grinder?

                            hmmmm i will think about it

                            I cant put it up for sale on CS yet anyway LOL

                            Finally got the grinder working properly for my machine

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