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Just a quick note of clarification here. Oongas partner trained on a silver stepped version of the M4D. These are pretty scarce these days as most people prefer the bling of the chrome micrometric version. In this grinder, I actually like the stepped version more
Chris
Oonga
That is the one I have apparently they are scarce as hens teeth as Chris has already noted
I love it and I dont have a bad word to say about it as it has served me faithfully
However back to the stepless answer, the Iberital grinder has a very fine adjusting thread size that is the reason why you require many many turns to see any results
Whereas the Macap has its adjustment on the large ring collar with a larger thread (less turns needed) just under the bean hopper and easier to adjust than the Iberital
I believe Chris can confirm this when you see him on your next visit
yes well i just happened to find some old supermarket beans that are at least about a month old as in that is how long i have had them LOL
they were so bland there was no taste to it really!! I cant believe that those beans used to taste ok in my pre coffee snob days, now they are like not drinking coffee!!!
i hate to sound like my mother who is a turkish coffee addict but it was like dirty water so to speak.
in regards to the practice i meant getting used to how much difference it will make to the grind depending on how much i wind it either way for coarseness or fineness.
But i guess you make a valid point that really it will be a case of different beans and roasts having different needs.
It was weird when we did our little course, we noticed with our grinder that although i was twisting towards finer the grind started to get coarser after a few twists LOL Even Chris asked me which way i was grinding LOL then after another 2 full twists it went finer again, so i guess that is what i meant by getting to know my grinder and its quirks
Which Macap do you have?
oh and i forgot to add that i got an email at almost 5pm to say my beans have been shipped 8-)
Im afraid the supermarket beans will be a waste. They will be stale and will grind differently to fresh beans--and no matter what you do the coffee will be sub-par.
The grind for each bean batch will be different, and will also vary due to the age of the beans, the humidity, and the temperature, (and the way you hold your tongue!), so there are no hard and fast answers. A little experimenting will soon have you in the right ballpark.
On my Macap the usual max-min range is only about 4 rotations of the winder, so I am rarely far enough out to have to discard a shot as undrinkable. And I have about 3 different coffees on the go at any one time!
i am so very unsure of how far to go with my knob lol
i was turning it a small amount and it was not making any difference
i have since realised i have to turn it like 1 or 2 full turns to make much difference
but just then i found the grind was too fine so i wanted to make it coarser and i only turned it a little bit, and it made no difference. I was scared to use the coffee because i dont have that much left and it doesnt seem like the payment will clear to get my coffee from beanbay LOL
actually might be a good idea to get some supermarket beans to waste on working out how much i need to twist to get different grinds LOL
Originally posted by JavaB link=1231235094/0#12 date=1231392008
Yep, a grinder where you rotate a know to vary the grind size is stepless.....
The upside is you can adjust the grind as finely as you like....
The downside is if you want to change from plunger grind to espresso.... you need LOTS of turns....
A stepped grinder on the other hand is quickly turned to one if its pre-set steps.... and as long as these are close together.... they are generally capable of sufficiently fine adjustment (always the case with expensive stepped grinders)...
The M4D is also stepless..... but uses a different locking method... (not the worm drive like the Iberital)..... which is better?..... well depends how finely you want your adjustment.... and how often you want to make massive changes..... I like the Iberital worm drive - espresso only - and thats what I have on my DRM flat/conical commercial grinder.
Just a quick note of clarification here. Oongas partner trained on a silver stepped version of the M4D. These are pretty scarce these days as most people prefer the bling of the chrome micrometric version. In this grinder, I actually like the stepped version more
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