In starting to do my coffee machine research Ive seen that many commonly available machines (such as what one would through harvey norman) have in built grinders but that machines people have posted about on here generally need separate stand alone grinders.
Is it possible to get high quality small domestic machines that have in built grinders or when one goes to an in built system do you loose a lot of grinder quality?
Is it possible to get high quality small domestic machines that have in built grinders or when one goes to an in built system do you loose a lot of grinder quality?

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