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  • La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

    Hey Guys
    This forum rocks AM helped me sort out my issue with my EM6910 a few weeks ago:
    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1280369768

    But now I have just bought myself a 3 year old La Cimbali Junior grinder!

    So Im wrapped but I dont think it has ever been cleaned and the thing is absolutely filthy  ;D

    I want to restore it to its former glory, and need any tips/warnings for  taking her apart.

    Here is a pic of the chute into the grinder.  

    Thanks guys


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    Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

    Here is the outside view of her

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    • #3
      Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

      Originally posted by 6C706772696D6573000 link=1281440423/0#0 date=1281440423
      So Im wrapped but I dont think it has ever been cleaned and the thing is absolutely filthy  

      I want to restore it to its former glory, and need any tips/warnings for  taking her apart.
      Thanks LL for those kind words...


      I love that short hopper :-* But not sure about teh knock box on teh cup tray :-/ :-/


      As per any rebuild...

      A: Search and use Google

      B: Look for reviews

      C: Take pics - lots of them

      D: Take it slow

      E: Clean and get rid of the crap and dirt...


      Then you have a place to start from...

      From there I would suggest you may not need much other than a set of new burrs... Coffeeparts = Over there to teh left.

      Considering what ya did with teh Sunbeam; this should be like a Sunday walk in teh park

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      • #4
        Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

        Gday LL... [smiley=laugh.gif]

        Given all the usual Caveats, these are an excellent grinder with a strong following here at CoffeeSnobs. Im sure other owners/restorers will chime in with their experiences and suggestions...

        All the best
        Mal.

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        • #5
          Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

          Haha thanks AM, I just ended up sticking the Knock box on top of the sunbeam when moving things around on the bench. Would never "use" it there ;D

          Will post some more pics and info when I get a chance to tear it down.
          Ill check out coffeeparts to see how much the burrs will set me back.

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          • #6
            Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

            Hey I had a look and are these the ones I would need?
            700102 - Cimbali DRM - DX Right - 64ext mm - 37Int mm - 9 Thick mm - 3holes - $47.50
            It seems this is for both burrs, not a bad price i reckon.

            I am having the same problems as with Sunbeam, in that I am not sure how this thing is meant to operate, so have a few questions.

            The grind adjustment nob is very hard to turn, and there is some play when you change directions, like the nob will slip a little when turning the opposite way then will catch and move the scales.

            In regards to the doser, is the lever meant to be spring loaded so that when you flick it to release a dose, the lever swings back? Because mine doesnt. I have to flick it forward and then flick the lever back?

            What do the numbers on the meter at the bottom left of the doser mean? Dont have a pic of it, but my meter reads 7999.

            Lastly here is a pic of the grind nob with the grind scales setting, is this normal?

            Thanks guys, appreciate it.


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            • #7
              Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

              Originally posted by 24382F3A21252D3B480 link=1281440423/5#5 date=1281489379
              Hey I had a look and are these the ones I would need?
              700102 - Cimbali DRM - DX Right - 64ext mm - 37Int mm - 9 Thick mm - 3holes - $47.50
              It seems this is for both burrs, not a bad price i reckon.

              I am having the same problems as with Sunbeam, in that I am not sure how this thing is meant to operate, so have a few questions.

              The grind adjustment nob is very hard to turn, and there is some play when you change directions, like the nob will slip a little when turning the opposite way then will catch and move the scales.

              In regards to the doser, is the lever meant to be spring loaded so that when you flick it to release a dose, the lever swings back? Because mine doesnt. I have to flick it forward and then flick the lever back?

              What do the numbers on the meter at the bottom left of the doser mean? Dont have a pic of it, but my meter reads 7999.

              Lastly here is a pic of the grind nob with the grind scales setting, is this normal?

              Thanks guys, appreciate it.  
              Google and read first.. Read the full article that is linked; but here is a link about 4 pages in..

              http://www.home-barista.com/espresso-grinder-review-cimbali-junior.html


              Then ask for more detail...

              All levers should be spring loaded = must be brok ;D

              Numbers could mean doses - counts when teh lever is pulled :-/

              Grind know = Read the review :-X

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              • #8
                Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                Originally posted by 766A7D6873777F691A0 link=1281440423/5#5 date=1281489379
                Hey I had a look and are these the ones I would need?
                700102 - Cimbali DRM - DX Right - 64ext mm - 37Int mm - 9 Thick mm - 3holes - $47.50
                Be careful, I have had 2 of these grinders. One had 64mm the other 63.5mm. When I pushed the 64mm into the 63.5mm it broke one of the three sweeping prongs.

                Originally posted by 766A7D6873777F691A0 link=1281440423/5#5 date=1281489379
                The grind adjustment nob is very hard to turn, and there is some play when you change directions, like the nob will slip a little when turning the opposite way then will catch and move the scales.
                It is harder to move than most grinders. The grease on the turning mech maybe old, gone, dirty. Lube it up when you take off the top part. Ill try to take some pics tonight.
                And yes both of mine had a little slip, about 1/4 turn.

                Originally posted by 766A7D6873777F691A0 link=1281440423/5#5 date=1281489379
                In regards to the doser, is the lever meant to be spring loaded so that when you flick it to release a dose, the lever swings back? Because mine doesnt. I have to flick it forward and then flick the lever back?
                Yes it should flick back on its own. Spring could be broken or come loose. Or the mech needs lube.

                Originally posted by 766A7D6873777F691A0 link=1281440423/5#5 date=1281489379
                What do the numbers on the meter at the bottom left of the doser mean? Dont have a pic of it, but my meter reads 7999.
                That is the dose counter. Every time you pull the dosing lever it should click once. Useless for home.

                Originally posted by 766A7D6873777F691A0 link=1281440423/5#5 date=1281489379
                Lastly here is a pic of the grind nob with the grind scales setting, is this normal?
                The number is just that, a number.
                When you get to pull the top off you will see that there are 3 screws holding down the dial so it could be out by 1/3. But it doesnt matter.

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                • #9
                  Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                  Thanks AM and Bassway, that answers alot of questions. I will have make sure i measure the burrs before i order any  

                  It spent the last 6 months of its life in a fish a chips shop!  
                  So I am sure everything is gummed up pretty good, so I think your right in that it will probably require re-greasing, which i will do when I completely strip it down.

                  Also I couldnt find any bearing on coffeeparts, anyone know where to buy new bearings for these? I am gathering i will need to replace them too.

                  Thanks again guys

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                  • #10
                    Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                    I have been in contact with a few places about replacement burrs. some are charging $120 for authentic ones, and other online shops are only charging $55.

                    Has anyone here purchased aftermarket burrs for the cimbali junior and if so have you been happy with them?

                    Thanks guys

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                    • #11
                      Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                      Originally posted by 3F2334213A3E3620530 link=1281440423/9#9 date=1281578312
                      Has anyone here purchased aftermarket burrs for the cimbali junior and if so have you been happy with them?
                      Cant comment on the burrs for the cimbali junior however bought two sets of after market burrs for the Rocky while I had it, the original burrs lasted 7 years, first set of AM lasted less than 6 months, second set about the same, so bought a set of genuine Rancilio burrs from Jetblack Espresso and they were still going strong 12 months later when I sold it.
                      I know others will say they all come from the same couple of factories but I can assure you there is a difference.
                      Genuine for me every time.

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                      • #12
                        Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                        Wow seven years!

                        Yeah that is what one of the online retailers said, that they come from similar factories.

                        My grinder is meant to only be 3 years old, but it was used in a cafe.
                        I might post some pics later in the week of the burrs to see if you guys think they need replacing before i go out and buy any more. ;D

                        Thanks mate

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                        • #13
                          Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                          Originally posted by 223E293C27232B3D4E0 link=1281440423/11#11 date=1281584036
                          Wow seven years!

                          Yeah that is what one of the online retailers said, that they come from similar factories.

                          My grinder is meant to only be 3 years old, but it was used in a cafe.
                          I might post some pics later in the week of the burrs to see if you guys think they need replacing before i go out and buy any more.  ;D

                          Thanks mate
                          A pic will show little... do the finger nail test - search and read....  like a knife blade, you can get a feel for it.  

                          Blunt is just that .... like a fat butter knife edge = blunt

                          Dull is passable but a warning that on the way...

                          Scratchy = Sharp  ;D

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                            Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                            Hey guys

                            Been taking the Junior apart.
                            Here is a picture of the inside with the sheet metal removed.
                            I saw the inside of another grinder with the inside removed from 2006 and it was totally different. Do any of you have a 3 - 4 year old Junior that looks like this, I am thinking mine may be older...?

                            Also the doser handle is just metal, there is no plastic sheith over it, is my one missing a part. Will post a pick later

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                              Re: La Cimbali Junior Secondhand Recon

                              Also here is the underside of the doser. I think it is meant to have a spring inside it, but i dont know where it would go.

                              Also dont think that snapped bit of wire connecting to the dose meter is original. Could someone please post a pic of their junior doser compartment so i can see how it is meant to look, and what parts to source. Much appreciated.

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