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  • #16
    Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

    Originally posted by 635F4259535245505853370 link=1286745648/12#12 date=1286849826
    Originally posted by 3B242A24410 link=1286745648/9#9 date=1286841619
    Thanks for your input I have just sent an email to sunbeam so Ill wait and see what they come up with.
    Ring them - youll get a faster response.
    If they send you some spacers I can try dig out instructions on how to fit them.

    Thanks, phoned them today and the spacers are on their way and a pdf on how to arrived this afternoon. Thanks again

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    • #17
      Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

      Originally posted by 273836385D0 link=1286745648/14#14 date=1286876151
      Originally posted by 09262F2D3A052926292F2D252D263C480 link=1286745648/11#11 date=1286845081
      Please explain what a decent 15 bar machine is.. So much roflmao I can not take a breath...

      15bar and Quality - these terms get misused and abused to the extent that I just shudder and know the post will be full of marketing crap.Mgmntmnmjmmngbegvngaz
      Oh Im sorry, didnt mean to upset your delicate sensibilities. As I am new to the sight and not coffee Ill take that as a simple predilection to elitism, something I wasnt looking for. What makes me "rolfmao" is my ability to roast my own and extract the essence to a degree Im comfortable with (a nice reddy tan, yum)  without buying into "maketing" dollars and its tiresome one upmanship. All i was after was a solution to my problem, not a my machines bigger than yours exercise. Cheers

      The solution was posted in my post 18 above. See the attached / linked PDF.

      You have still not identified your " decent 15 bar machine" and the issue is that most every machine on the market  has a vibe pump has a spec of 15BAR.

      However it is all marketing hype...  15 Bar or  25Bar is a toss away line and nothing more.

      Some might say the real issue is if it has a real 3 way valve and 9bar active OPV on the group head...


      However that would be speaking your talk..

      So I am Oh Im sorry, didnt mean to upset your delicate sensibilities. And  Ill take that as a simple predilection to OS elitism, something I wasnt  expecting.  What makes me "rolfmao" is my ability to roast my own and extract the essence to a degree Im comfortable with  without buying into the tiresome princesses that frequent forums  

      We try to educmate and assist people, to allow them to enjoy coffee, not to serve them!

      Besides, the machine is the least important in the process next to the user 

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      • #18
        Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

        Originally posted by 5E414F41240 link=1286745648/14#14 date=1286876151
        Originally posted by 09262F2D3A052926292F2D252D263C480 link=1286745648/11#11 date=1286845081
        Please explain what a decent 15 bar machine is.. So much roflmao I can not take a breath...

        15bar and Quality - these terms get misused and abused to the extent that I just shudder and know the post will be full of marketing crap.Mgmntmnmjmmngbegvngaz
        Oh Im sorry, didnt mean to upset your delicate sensibilities. As I am new to the sight and not coffee Ill take that as a simple predilection to elitism, something I wasnt looking for. What makes me "rolfmao" is my ability to roast my own and extract the essence to a degree Im comfortable with (a nice reddy tan, yum)  without buying into "maketing" dollars and its tiresome one upmanship. All i was after was a solution to my problem, not a my machines bigger than yours exercise. Cheers
        Hmmmm, 8 very helpful replies and you respond with this! Am is one of Coffee Snobs most knowledgeable and respected members, perhaps a simple thanks would have been more appropriate. :-/
        BTW Welcome to Coffee Snobs.

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        • #19
          Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

          Originally posted by 172B223A2F4E0 link=1286745648/17#17 date=1286888750
          Originally posted by 5E414F41240 link=1286745648/14#14 date=1286876151
          Originally posted by 09262F2D3A052926292F2D252D263C480 link=1286745648/11#11 date=1286845081
          Please explain what a decent 15 bar machine is.. So much roflmao I can not take a breath...

          15bar and Quality - these terms get misused and abused to the extent that I just shudder and know the post will be full of marketing crap.Mgmntmnmjmmngbegvngaz
          Oh Im sorry, didnt mean to upset your delicate sensibilities. As I am new to the sight and not coffee Ill take that as a simple predilection to elitism, something I wasnt looking for. What makes me "rolfmao" is my ability to roast my own and extract the essence to a degree Im comfortable with (a nice reddy tan, yum)  without buying into "maketing" dollars and its tiresome one upmanship. All i was after was a solution to my problem, not a my machines bigger than yours exercise. Cheers
          Hmmmm, 8 very helpful replies and you respond with this! Am is one of Coffee Snobs most knowledgeable and respected members, perhaps a simple thanks would have been more appropriate. :-/
          BTW Welcome to Coffee Snobs.  

          Yes some very helpful replies and I have pretty much humbly thanked all for their input, if you read my replies. Yet if you think that for one second I am going to sit back and be condescended to by someone based on their or your belief in their prefered status them maybe Im in the wrong club. I am more than grateful for feedback of any description but will not play the "Orwellian" we are all equal but some are more equal than others game, nor will I be a part of any one upmanship nonesense. Anyway, all the best

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          • #20
            Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

            LOL Maybe we got off on the wrong foot sport. Yes we could both get involved in petty hominem and equivocation but thiat would be childish  . So peace fellow slurrper, and thanks for the input re my question.

            Zeke

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            • #21
              Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

              Originally posted by 4D525C52370 link=1286745648/19#19 date=1286915091
              LOL Maybe we got off on the wrong foot sport. Yes we could both get involved in petty hominem and equivocation but thiat would be childish  . So peace fellow slurrper, and thanks for the input re my question.

              Zeke
              No problem...

              Wrong foot, wrong hoof, wrong morning and I was typing from the crappy i-brick they call a phone ;D

              SO PLEASE TELL - What brand and model coffee machine are you using ?

              It is not a Coopworths or a Perendale ? (sorry - bad attempt at humour)

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              • #22
                Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                Originally posted by 6B747A74110 link=1286745648/18#18 date=1286914703
                if you think that for one second I am going to sit back and be condescended to by someone based on their or your belief in their prefered status them maybe Im in the wrong club.
                You came here looking for help.

                "Being condescended to" is your interpretation; remember, the written word doesnt always come across as intended.

                AM does come across as brusk but when youve been here long enough to get to know him youll understand his bark is worse than his bite.

                Originally posted by 6B747A74110 link=1286745648/19#19 date=1286915091
                LOL Maybe we got off on the wrong foot sport. Yes we could both get involved in petty hominem and equivocation but thiat would be childish  . So peace fellow slurrper, and thanks for the input re my question.

                Zeke
                Thats more like it.
                You catch more flies with honey.


                Now what coffee equipment do you have?

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                • #23
                  Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                  Originally posted by 67484143546B47484741434B434852260 link=1286745648/20#20 date=1286923565
                  Originally posted by 4D525C52370 link=1286745648/19#19 date=1286915091
                  LOL Maybe we got off on the wrong foot sport. Yes we could both get involved in petty hominem and equivocation but thiat would be childish  . So peace fellow slurrper, and thanks for the input re my question.

                  Zeke
                  No problem...

                  Wrong foot, wrong hoof, wrong morning and I was typing from the crappy i-brick they call a phone  ;D

                  SO PLEASE TELL - What brand and model coffee machine are you using ?

                  It is not a Coopworths or a  Perendale ?   (sorry - bad attempt at humour)
                  Lol no... a "skippy" maybe. I have a Sunbeam EM6900 and roasting fresh beans in my trusty Cascade popcorn maker for bout a year or so, currently liking the Ethiopian Harrar, I tend toward the late second crack.
                  The spacers just arrived via courier from sunbeam (very accomodating) and I have installed them. Started with one and ended up putting in the 2 they sent me. Still pretty gritty even down on 1, being the finest grind, so am thinking of getting a couple more. Ill be careful to start up at a couarse grind and work my way down.

                  Zeke

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                  • #24
                    Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                    Originally posted by 132F3229232235202823470 link=1286745648/21#21 date=1286932431
                    Originally posted by 6B747A74110 link=1286745648/18#18 date=1286914703
                    if you think that for one second I am going to sit back and be condescended to by someone based on their or your belief in their prefered status them maybe Im in the wrong club.
                    You came here looking for help.

                    "Being condescended to" is your interpretation; remember, the written word doesnt always come across as intended.

                    AM does come across as brusk but when youve been here long enough to get to know him youll understand his bark is worse than his bite.

                    Originally posted by 6B747A74110 link=1286745648/19#19 date=1286915091
                    LOL Maybe we got off on the wrong foot sport. Yes we could both get involved in petty hominem and equivocation but thiat would be childish  . So peace fellow slurrper, and thanks for the input re my question.

                    Zeke
                    Thats more like it.
                    You catch more flies with honey.


                    Now what coffee equipment do you have?
                    A Sunbeam EM6900 and the new Sunbeam grinder 0450 and a trustiy cascade popper for roasting
                    Zeke

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                    • #25
                      Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                      Originally posted by 6760646B63697C6C6B62050 link=1286745648/8#8 date=1286841254
                      Already roasting and below 30 posts, Coffee Addict ;D

                      Ring Sunbeams service hotline, by all accounts they are great to deal with and talk to them about the problem. Trying to talk techie to an appliance store will be a waste of time and energy in most cases. It should get you washers or sorted with another if it is still a bust.

                      Good luck
                      Thanks, washers have arrived, 2 of them but still a rather coarse grind will try one more,

                      Zeke

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                      • #26
                        Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                        Originally posted by 362927294C0 link=1286745648/24#24 date=1286942605
                        Thanks, washers have arrived, 2 of them but still a rather coarse grind will try one more,
                        Take care as the top burr can also become loose and in addition - if you re seat the carrier the wrong way, it can change the location and cause issues..

                        Have not ever seen the need for more than 3 in a worse case situation.

                        Were the instructions from Sunbeam the same as per my post #13

                        In the grinder section there are some great mods but you will need to go back a while.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                          Ive just picked up my EM0450 within the last week, and first grind it came out real chunky... like Blend 43 chunky (well, almost)! I was having a heart attack, but I pulled everything apart, made sure I refitted everything back together properly, and it worked fine.

                          I have a feeling I hadnt locked the top burr into the adjustment collar correctly... I *assume* this is not your issue, but just on the off chance that it is, I thought Id share my experiences.

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                          • #28
                            Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                            Originally posted by 393C30343833356A5D0 link=1286745648/26#26 date=1286952881
                            Ive just picked up my EM0450 within the last week, and first grind it came out real chunky... like Blend 43 chunky (well, almost)!  I was having a heart attack, but I pulled everything apart, made sure I refitted everything back together properly, and it worked fine.  

                            I have a feeling I hadnt locked the top burr into the adjustment collar correctly... I *assume* this is not your issue, but just on the off chance that it is, I thought Id share my experiences.
                            Thanks for the suggestion. Yeah I double and triple checked. When I first put it together nothing came out at all, nearly spat the dummy. but like you took it to bits and disco all started working although the grind was really coarse. Anyhoo the spacers appear to be working ok may just try a third one as still not really fine enough.

                            Zeke

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                            • #29
                              Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                              Originally posted by 200F0604132C000F0006040C040F15610 link=1286745648/25#25 date=1286943730
                              Originally posted by 362927294C0 link=1286745648/24#24 date=1286942605
                              Thanks, washers have arrived, 2 of them but still a rather coarse grind will try one more,
                              Take care as the top burr can also become loose and in addition - if you re seat the carrier the wrong way, it can change the location and cause issues..

                              Have not ever seen the need for more than 3 in a worse case situation.

                              Were the instructions from Sunbeam the same as per my post #13

                              In the grinder section there are some great mods but you will need to go back a while.

                              Hopefully a third will do it. Very odd. Instructions were very similar to yours. I have triple checked the seating of everything and all appears in place. Ill check back on the suggested mods, thanks.

                              Zeke

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                                Hey there zeke,
                                Try this as well, when you take off the grind adjustment collar, you should see four holding screws on top of grinder. Make sure they are screwed on fairly tight. Apparently if the screws are not tight, it can affect the spacing of the bottom burr to the top burr.
                                I had this problem with my recent purchase of my EM0480 when it seemed to grind coarsely on the fine settings out of the box!!
                                So before i muttered somethings about consumer grade products i took the thing apart and just randomly checked the 4 screws holding the bottom burr housing. They were not tight, in fact they unscrewed so easily it wasnt funny!!
                                I then tightened them, checked everything else, put the grind adjustment collar back on, and replaced the top burr back on, making sure it,s sitting flush on it,s seat, put the hopper on grind some beans. Lo and behold, it was grinding almost turkish powder. So, i had to re-adjust the grind settings again.
                                Before, out of the box i had to have setting on 5 to get something that resembles espresso grind, now i had to put it to 12, which seems to make more sense.
                                So please check your screws zeke, otherwise those spacers might be useless again as the screws move things about.

                                Gary

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