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  • #31
    Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

    Originally posted by 776D606173657D7777040 link=1286745648/29#29 date=1286994515
    Hey there zeke,
                Try this as well, when you take off the grind adjustment collar, you should see four holding screws on top of grinder. Make sure they are screwed on fairly tight. Apparently if the screws are not tight, it can affect the spacing of the bottom burr to the top burr.
                I had this problem with my recent purchase of my EM0480 when it seemed to grind coarsely on the fine settings out of the box!!
                So before i muttered somethings about consumer grade products i took the thing apart and just randomly checked the 4 screws holding the bottom burr housing. They were not tight, in fact they unscrewed so easily it wasnt funny!!
                I then tightened them, checked everything else, put the grind adjustment collar back on, and replaced the top burr back on, making sure it,s sitting flush on it,s seat, put the hopper on grind some beans. Lo and behold, it was grinding almost turkish powder. So, i had to re-adjust the grind settings again.
              Before, out of the box i had to have setting on 5 to get something that resembles espresso grind, now i had to put it to 12, which seems to make more sense.
              So please check your screws zeke, otherwise those spacers might be useless again as the screws move things about.

    Gary
    Thanks Gary, about to operate on it this morning, appreciate the suggestion will check out the screws. Fingers crossed!

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    • #32
      Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

      Hey thanks everyone. I have got it going as it should. One washer and as Gary suggested tightened the 4 screws down around the bottom burr and DISCO, I have a burr grinder that does what it should. Now getting the proper grind at about notch 8/9 (of 20).

      ;D ;D ;D

      And yes you guessed it going to make a coffee.... long and black.

      Zeke

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      • #33
        Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

        Hi Zeke, good to hear that all is good now and although I claim zero credit it is good to see that the CS community has come through again.

        Steve.

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        • #34
          Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

          Originally posted by 766C616072647C7676050 link=1286745648/29#29 date=1286994515
          Hey there zeke,
                      Try this as well, when you take off the grind adjustment collar, you should see four holding screws on top of grinder. Make sure they are screwed on fairly tight. Apparently if the screws are not tight, it can affect the spacing of the bottom burr to the top burr.
                      I had this problem with my recent purchase of my EM0480 when it seemed to grind coarsely on the fine settings out of the box!!
                      So before i muttered somethings about consumer grade products i took the thing apart and just randomly checked the 4 screws holding the bottom burr housing. They were not tight, in fact they unscrewed so easily it wasnt funny!!
                      I then tightened them, checked everything else, put the grind adjustment collar back on, and replaced the top burr back on, making sure it,s sitting flush on it,s seat, put the hopper on grind some beans. Lo and behold, it was grinding almost turkish powder. So, i had to re-adjust the grind settings again.
                    Before, out of the box i had to have setting on 5 to get something that resembles espresso grind, now i had to put it to 12, which seems to make more sense.
                    So please check your screws zeke, otherwise those spacers might be useless again as the screws move things about.

          Gary
          Interesting.. As I usually end up playing with some... AFTER the fact ;D

          I have always checked and tightened all screws, never had these SUPER loose but have had them loose.

          As I have usually cleaned and put washers in/out etc... I must admit. Never let it click, that the two issues might be related...

          Wonder how many others are running 3 wasters or even two, when ONE washer and some simple biceps and a screw driver might make things more CONSISTENT as well.

          Thanks Gary at Gala

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          • #35
            Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

            Originally posted by 103F3634231C303F3036343C343F25510 link=1286745648/33#33 date=1287014638
            Wonder how many others are running 3 wasters or even two, when ONE washer and some simple biceps and a screw driver might make things more CONSISTENT as well.  
            Ill be checking mine tonight!

            Originally posted by 103F3634231C303F3036343C343F25510 link=1286745648/33#33 date=1287014638
            Thanks Gary at Gala
            Ditto!

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            • #36
              Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

              Originally posted by 69464F4D5A654946494F4D454D465C280 link=1286745648/33#33 date=1287014638
              Wonder how many others are running 3 wasters or even two, when ONE washer and some simple biceps and a screw driver might make things more CONSISTENT as well.

              Thanks Gary at Gala
              The loose screws was new information to me Gary.
              Thanks for posting that.
              Looks like its done the trick.

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              • #37
                Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                Am sure there are others with this grinder who have pulled their hair out trying to figure out why the numbers dont match to those recommended in the manual, so we try looking somewhere else for the solution.
                Ok, products should work out of the box, but this is a Consumer Grade Product, bottom line.
                Good luck to those who take my tip, I feel good to know my hair pulling and assembly fault finding has been worth it. ;D

                Thanks zeke, AM, Damienh and TG for your kind words.

                gary

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                • #38
                  Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                  Mine worked out of the box but I think QA has gone AWOL since.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                    I have an EM0480 with the same issue. I rang Sunbeam to see about getting some spacers sent out to me but the advice was to ring the local Sunbeam spare parts agent (they gave me the ph #) and part number to order, at my cost. Can anyone confirm if they have phoned Sunbeam lately who sent out the spacers for free?

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                    • #40
                      Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                      Had to order spacer through spare parts agent after phoning Sunbeam. While waiting checked the screws and found slightly loose and after tightening went from below 4 to 12 for espresso. Interesting though that I had trouble getting water from pump without PF in. Took out water container a few times and turned on/off. eventually started to get a flow.
                      Initially choked on lower grind setting but noticed gauge no where near red area. Hope this is not a pump problem.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                        Originally posted by 7970320 link=1286745648/39#39 date=1291000430
                        Initially choked on lower grind setting but noticed gauge no where near red area. Hope this is not a pump problem.
                        DO a sweet spot check using a double floor basket and no coffee..

                        See where teh gauge reads.

                        You should be close to that reading with a correct grind/beans and tamp.. A bit higher is OK.

                        Also check to see that you not overdosing and forcing teh group in or you will end up with a stuffed collar.

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                        • #42
                          Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                          EM 480 - Sweet spot check about 7 to on the clock face. 5 past on choke.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                            Originally posted by 11185A0 link=1286745648/39#39 date=1291000430
                            While waiting checked the screws and found slightly loose and after tightening went from below 4 to 12 for espresso.
                            Was interesting to know your settings changed after you checked screws. At least one other CSer here has same problem.
                            I came across the same situation when the loose screws affected the position of the bottom burr.
                            Double check the water reservoir is firmly in place and the condition of the outlet of reservoir
                            and do as per AMs instructions about sweet spot.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                              Originally posted by 7A73310 link=1286745648/41#41 date=1291006567
                              EM 480 - Sweet spot check about 7 to on the clock face. 5 past on choke.
                              Sorry... I dont get it ?


                              Sweet spot usually between 11 through to about 1 on the EM6910 gauge with the RED being about 3.

                              No such thing as a sweet spot on a EM0480... Grind settings are all variable and just a guide / indicator.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Sunbeam Em0450 (Doesnt grind fine enough)

                                Originally posted by 48676E6C7B446867686E6C646C677D090 link=1286745648/43#43 date=1291017389
                                Originally posted by 7A73310 link=1286745648/41#41 date=1291006567
                                EM 480 - Sweet spot check about 7 to on the clock face. 5 past on choke.
                                Sorry... I dont get it ?


                                Sweet spot usually between 11 through to about  1 on the EM6910 gauge with the RED being about 3.

                                No such thing as a sweet spot on a EM0480... Grind settings are all variable and just a guide / indicator.
                                I guess ** is referring to the minute hand - ie 7 to is a bit shy of 11 and 5 past is 1.

                                Seems about right, though I dont think 1 would be a choke on my machine, just overextracted.

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