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  • Framey
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    Hope youre well Mal.

    The Major has about 72kgs on it. It seems to have an issue with static which can be a tad annoying.

    The Robur has only done about 180kgs and has settled in nicely and has no issues with static.

    The knobs make a fine replacement for the OEM adjustment pins. Little bit more leverage and who doesnt like colourful knobs 

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  • Dimal
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    Gday Framey...

    Thats interesting mate. Do you have any idea how many Kgs each of the burr-sets have had put through them?

    The only thing I can think of as to the "mottling" with the Flat Burrs, is maybe to do with the particle size spread difference between the two types... Ive noticed the same thing with my Kony as well. The crema is much more uniform in colour and varies only by a slight colour intensity shift, as the pour progresses.

    I like the big round knobs on the adjustment handles..... 8-)

    Mal.

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  • Framey
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    Ive got a Major E and a Robur E. For the same shot type and dose size the Major is set to 6.8 seconds and the Robur is set to 3.6 seconds.

    Fairly fine grind of 19 grams according to my not too accurate kitchen scales.

    Cant say Ive noticed an obvious taste difference, but I havent really ever set that experiment up officially.

    The only thing I have noticed that has me slightly baffled is the flat burrs give my espresso mottled crema, while the conical rarely if ever does... no idea why. Machine set to same temp and coffee doesnt seem to matter.

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by 64484B4E497870270 link=1308475776/13#13 date=1312610489
    Grind time depends on grinder setting.
    Finer grind = slower grind time for same dose.
    Yep, very true...

    This was supposed to be an espresso grind though and fairly indicative from my own research....

    Mal.

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  • Ronin
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    Grind time depends on grinder setting.
    Finer grind = slower grind time for same dose.
    My Knoy E doses 20g in just under 8 sec for dbl ristretto.

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  • specialpants
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    Wow - that was pretty quick!

    Originally posted by 7F52565A573B0 link=1308475776/7#7 date=1308923860
    Originally posted by 7E464F5A6C41572E0 link=1308475776/6#6 date=1308920420
    major electronic is dosing around 18-20g in about 10 seconds
    Hmmm....

    That seems a little slow. Pretty sure Ive seen demo videos that do this in less than half that time....

    Mal.

    P.S.
    As per this one for 16g
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQr7qEpEK_o[/media]

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  • Identity
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    Totally agree - I think most people I talk coffee with these days can taste the difference, but sometimes you taste it because you know its there. Blind/blindfolded taste-offs are the best option to work it, with a barista friend!

    Remember, your mileage will vary with the bean you use.

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by 002D2C273D203D30490 link=1308475776/8#8 date=1310197545
    @ Mal - the 3 phase 380V Mazzer Major is indeed a lot faster than the 2 phase 220-240V Major. Thats not massively surprising, but its annoying that people dont make it clear which is which when doing demo videos.
    Looking at the power cord, it doesnt look fat enough to be 3-Phase which operate at higher voltage and require thicker insulated cores (usually).

    I know what you mean though, a little more specific data would be helpful....

    Mal.

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  • TC
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    Originally posted by 4A67666D776A777A030 link=1308475776/8#8 date=1310197545
    Chris, I think you got Major mixed up with Kony for the question.

    OP - For my money, Id go conical over flat burr every day.
    Erm...I may have done that John  ;D

    I am with you on the burr type though. Conical for me too.

    Chris

    P.S. Welcome back! long time.

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  • Identity
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    @ Mal - the 3 phase 380V Mazzer Major is indeed a lot faster than the 2 phase 220-240V Major. Thats not massively surprising, but its annoying that people dont make it clear which is which when doing demo videos.

    I know the new Kony Es (like bjecks) are a lot faster than the old Kony Es - perhaps some of the Majors also have this problem?

    Chris, I think you got Major mixed up with Kony for the question.

    OP - For my money, Id go conical over flat burr every day.

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by 7E464F5A6C41572E0 link=1308475776/6#6 date=1308920420
    major electronic is dosing around 18-20g in about 10 seconds
    Hmmm....

    That seems a little slow. Pretty sure Ive seen demo videos that do this in less than half that time....

    Mal.

    P.S.
    As per this one for 16g
    [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQr7qEpEK_o[/media]

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  • PhatBoy
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    major electronic is dosing around 18-20g in about 10 seconds

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  • Fresh_Coffee
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    Arh yeah just had another thought wrt comparo.

    In the interest of obtaining a true result would rather not compare them where one has new burrs and the other hasnt, and would rather not compare a conical to anything unless it has quite a few kg under its belt.

    Of course as usual, thats just my opinion...

    Cant see a major delivering "slowly" whether the plates are worn or not.

    Rgdz,
    A.

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  • Fresh_Coffee
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    Hello all.

    General rule of thumb for "regular" flat (planar) plates as supplied at original fitment say 400 kilosish give or take, and for conical burrs say double.

    Dont expect earth shattering differences, and as stated you must do a side by side, one on one test. Anything else will give silly results. Also, suggest you are not looking for a "blind" test. You are (I think) looking rather, to adjust both grinders down to a point where they are both resulting in best possible brew with same beans, operational technique and machine, and then cup and judge the different nuances (if you find any) between the two.

    Dont expect to get one that is "better" than the other, expect rather to get a minds picture of the different nuances (if you find any) between the two and decide which you like better for whatever reason. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and remember that your opinion might change when you change the type of coffee beans you put in the hopper!

    Rgdz,
    Attilio.

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  • PhatBoy
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    Will do side by side comparison, but not sure how old the burrs are in the major. Seems slow.
    Which brings me to my next question.
    How many kgs till the blades need changing in the major and Robur.

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