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  • #16
    Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

    Ah ok BM,

    I stand corrected. Thank you kindly,

    Mal.

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    • #17
      Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

      Just on this...

      Having a look on the Sunbeam site the only real differences (besides appearance) is the 5 year motor warrantee on the EM0480... No mention of such a Warrantee on the EM0450. Looks the same otherwise... and if it is...WOW.... what a bargin! Need to see it in the flesh though... perhaps the housing isnt Solid Metal like the EM0480 - who knows...

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      • #18
        Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

        Were not the only ones getting confused - I emailed Sunbeam and they initially confused the EM0450 and the 430 as well!
        The following is from the Sunbeam customer service dept (after I requested clarification):-

        xxxx,
        I apologise I did think EM0430

        The EM0450 is very similar to the EM0480 although EM0480 has
        the 30 grind settings and full metal body.

        Regards,
        Poppy

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        • #19
          Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

          Poppy has been busy today.... she emailed me in response to my EM0480 problems..... although her reply was to call the 1800 number.....

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          • #20
            Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

            I dropped into Harvey Norman yesterday, and they are the first place Ive seen that are stocking the 0450 so far. Had a look at it next to the 0480, and they do indeed look exactly the same.

            The only differences I could tell on inspection:
            1. Plastic body instead of metal
            2. The bean holder in clear instead of tinted
            2. The tray underneath the outlet is a bit different (but still removable)

            As far as I could tell, the burrset was the same, etc.

            They are pricing it at rrp of $159, but pretty quicly offered it to me for $137. They could probably be beaten down a little more with a bit of effort - I wasnt planning to buy anything yesterday anyway.

            But it looks like this is the grinder to buy for us tight-arses. It might pay to wait a few months though until others get it in stock and may do a better price.

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            • #21
              Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

              Originally posted by gupayami link=1161409619/15#17 date=1161745281
              The EM0450 is very similar to the EM0480 although EM0480 has
              the 30 grind settings and full metal body.
              The sunbeam webpage lists 24 grind settings for the EM0480 and 25 for the EM0450. This might refer to how many marked settings there are, rather than how many actual settings there are - I remember someone saying that the grinder can be adjusted outside the marked range.

              The grinds tray looks a bit more practical ... in fact, it looks like a ripoff of the mazzer mini tray.

              I wonder if it has that nice metal on/off toggle switch. I know that its not a huge deal, functionally, but that was my favourite part of the machine, dammnit!

              It looks to be very good value for anything except for espresso.

              Cheers,

              Luca

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              • #22
                Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                I wonder if it has that nice metal on/off toggle switch. I know that its not a huge deal, functionally, but that was my favourite part of the machine, dammnit!
                The switch appears to be exactly the same, from what I could tell. Also, from a brief look, it appeared to have the same number of grind settings, also.

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                • #23
                  Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                  Just had a look at Myer today - they had the EM0450 and the EM0480 side by side. My first impression is that their size is very similiar indeed. The bean holder on top is certainly the same size. I would not say that the EM0480 cafe series appearance looks that much nicer than the EM0450, though this is just my humble opinion. I could not see the metal on-off switch on the EM0450 - it appears to not have a on-off switch at all. The EM0450 was $159 and EM0480 $199 as per above post.

                  One good thing for home use - the tray of the EM0450 was completely removable, and thus it takes less kitchen real estate with the tray off. For those in apartments such as myself this is definitely important. Have to leave space for the Silvia (when I can afford it)... back to my $15 Moka Pot...

                  ps will someone please buy this bas***d and review it?!! Massive street cred will no doubt result.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                    Originally posted by gupayami link=1161409619/15#22 date=1163318113
                    Just had a look at Myer today - they had the EM0450 and the EM0480 side by side. <snip> The EM0450 was $159 and EM0480 $199 as per above post.

                    One good thing for home use - the tray of the EM0450 was completely removable, and thus it takes less kitchen real estate with the tray off. For those in apartments such as myself this is definitely important. Have to leave space for the Silvia (when I can afford it)... back to my $15 Moka Pot...
                    Gupa,

                    If you are planning on getting a Silvia down the track, then forget about these Sunbeams. I bought a Silvia a little while ago, only to quickly realise that it is worthless without a grinder that will do it justice. After some discussion I decided to get the Iberital Challenge, and I have been very happy with it. You can read some reviews of it here. You may save $100 for now by getting the Sunbeam, but then youll end up having to replace it once you get the Silvia, so youll lose money in the long run.

                    My 2 cents, from one beginner to another.

                    Cheers,
                    Julio

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                    • #25
                      Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                      I am happy with my Iberital as well. But you would really need to think through whether you will just use yoru grinder for your espresso machine when you get it or will also use plunger or..... If that is the case than wouldnt recommend the Challenge due to the hassle it is to change for multiple grind purpsoes. But I am sure there would be others around this same price range that might suit yoru purpose but is obvioulsy a jump from the sunbeam. But you may possibly have to go up from the sunbeam if you plan to use it for a silvia. I am not a silvia owner but there are plenty around to tell you how successful a particular grinder may be. Site sponsors will know what works best for your purpsoes though. Which would rule out the sunbeam if you do that. But worth contacting them and you may find for not too much more coin you will get something that will suit you better.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                        Oh I dunno? :-?

                        If the Sunbeam is what your budget currently allows then it will work with a Silvia et al, even if its only as an interim measure... There are plenty of CSers who have the Silvia/EMO480 combo working ok. Its not the ideal combination but you can always upgrade later on and keep the Sunbeam for Plunger duty, etc.

                        Mal.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                          Originally posted by Mal link=1161409619/15#25 date=1163429561
                          Oh I dunno? :-?

                          If the Sunbeam is what your budget currently allows then it will work with a Silvia et al, even if its only as an interim measure... There are plenty of CSers who have the Silvia/EMO480 combo working ok. Its not the ideal combination but you can always upgrade later on and keep the Sunbeam for Plunger duty, etc.

                          Mal.
                          I agree with Mal.... the only negative I know about is the steps arent fine... so you cant "fine fine" tune the grind. I can assure you the Sunbeam can grind fine enough! If I set my Sunbeam to 12, I get ultra fine power (not grinds)....Having said that, if your budget allows for it, stretch for the Ibertial - bypassing the Lux, for stepless grind adjustment.

                          Note : I just spoke with Damien (Champion bloke) at Sunbeam and he assures me the EM450 innards are the same as the EM480 and the grind quality is the same - it just has less adjustments, plastic body and only grind on demand.

                          All grinders have there place... your budget is the decider.

                          Marc

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                          • #28
                            Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                            I have the EM0450 and a Silvia and I am happy with the combination. I have found I have to grind on 16 and find that ok. Anything less than 15 and it gets a bit too fine. It may change in time though as it wears a bit.

                            Differences I have found from the EM0480 are:-

                            1) No on/off/auto switch, just power on at the wall and is always in auto mode.

                            2) Silver plastic rather than s/s.

                            3) Clear hopper, not tinted.

                            4) The settings are marked as 1-25 but you still here clicks after 25, if I count them I can here 31 clicks in total as you wind around to the unlock point.

                            5) Tray is different, a dark grey plastic that is fully removable.

                            I spoke to a Sunbeam rep and she said it was exactly the same as the EM0480 except for the above mentioned points. This is what swayed me to purchase the 450 over the 480 as they werent important enough to warrant spending the extra money.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                              Good on ya dford99 [smiley=thumbsup.gif],

                              Hope you have plenty of fun and some great brews with that combo 8-),

                              All the best,
                              Mal.

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                              • #30
                                Re: Sunbeam EM0450 - new conical burr grinder

                                Originally posted by marcstolk link=1161409619/15#26 date=1163464884
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                                I agree with Mal.... the only negative I know about is the steps arent fine... so you cant "fine fine" tune the grind. I can assure you the Sunbeam can grind fine enough!  If I set my Sunbeam to 12, I get ultra fine power (not grinds)....Having said that, if your budget allows for it, stretch for the Ibertial - bypassing the Lux, for stepless grind adjustment.

                                Note : I just spoke with Damien (Champion bloke) at Sunbeam and he assures me the EM450 innards are the same as the EM480 and the grind quality is the same - it just has less adjustments, plastic body and only grind on demand.

                                All grinders have there place... your budget is the decider.

                                Marc

                                You have yours set on 15?  I need mine set on 5...  with a Gaggia Classic.

                                There shouldnt be that much difference between a Classic and Silvia grind should there?

                                Have you done any modifications to your grinder?

                                Makes me think there might be something wrong with mine..... :-/

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