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  • #31
    Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

    sure can...

    its a little hard to see from the pic, but the older one does look like its been welded, judging by the little bits of dreck that have accumulated in the crack - the new one (which arrived today by air express - not bad considering I only broke it yesterday ) seems to be cast from a single piece.

    The old one is the one in the foreground:



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    • #32
      Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

      Yep,

      The old one definately looks like the lug is an "add on"....

      The new one does appear to be better..... can you please post a photo looking at the new one from the spout end....

      Certainly is fast service... you got to be happy with the level of support Sunbeam provide...

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      • #33
        Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

        but the break itself was pretty clean - I just took to the old one with a hammer & screwdriver (my grandfather is rolling in his grave about the screwdriver part.... Sorry pa, but theres no room for all your tools in this little flat.) - its pretty much sheared off at the same point - Ive got one lug left so Ill have a go at this one with a hacksaw.

        The discoloration in the next photo is a bit misleading - it looks like 2 totally different bits of metal, but the inner ring is just the groove where the little spring-locking wire sits.

        heres one of the break:

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        • #34
          Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

          and, by request, the spout end. actually, looks pretty much the same as the old one.

          Cant fault the replacement service, granted, but it does appear to be poor design. There is a more solid one on the "higher end" lower end machines (mines a lower end lower end) - I think the 5800s have a brass-and-something pf handle, which is supposedly more sturdy. I think if it breaks again, Ill be asking for one of those....

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          • #35
            Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

            MMMM....

            There looks to be a bit of a gap where the lug joins onto the body.... hard to tell.

            They have either machined the lug and the pf so that it is a really sharp edge at the joint .... or it is also an "add on".

            Most PFs have a filet (curved edge rather than a sharp one) where the two join as it is not possible to cast a sharp joint like the one on the picture...

            looking at your earlier photo, where the lug has been "knocked off" - (and yeah I also use a screw driver as a chisel from time to time :)- the metal surface appears to be crystalline - I suspect they have used an Aluminium alloy rather than pure Aluminium.

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            • #36
              Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

              Yeh, I think the higher end lower machines have a Brass PF... but nothing like the commercial type in weight, but they arent bad...

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              • #37
                Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

                Originally posted by JavaB link=1165192751/30#34 date=1165373186
                MMMM....

                There looks to be a bit of a gap where the lug joins onto the body.... hard to tell.
                hard to say - once theyve shinied it all up, its difficult to tell whats happening underneath. Better go get the screwdriver again....

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                • #38
                  Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

                  Back on topic of the sunbeam grinder......

                  Sunbeam took it back and "serviced" it.

                  The end result? I now use setting 5 to do the same job as I used to on 4. According to the rep., it now performs "to spec". Why then do they recommend setting 12 to 16 for espresso??

                  The interesting bit is that there are plenty more than 24 clicks now..... Supposedly the lugs that move with the clicks had come a little undone or something and they tightened them but why more clicks now? Nothing was replaced.

                  I do not know if I should hassle Sunbeam again and just go for a complete replacement or if this truly is normal.

                  Any thoughts from any body?

                  DrT

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                  • #39
                    Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

                    Why not just wait it out a little and see if it stays around the 5 mark or if it changes as it wears?

                    Depends on how much warrantee you have left though really.

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                    • #40
                      Re: finer and finer - where does it stop?

                      DrT, very good question... see how long it stays on 5... if you have to venture out below 5 again Id insist on a replacement... .. The lowest Ive gone on mine is 15, and that was for a ristretto double

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