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  • Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

    Hi all,
    Been checking this site out for some time now & decided now is a good time to drop in and say hello as I am looking to upgrade my kit in the next month– woohoo!  Wasn’t much point jumping on any earlier as my current setup is way too embarrassing to discuss here – lol. However, with a new coffee machine & grinder on my mind, there is a very high chance I will have a thousand questions before too long – I would definitely say it’s going to be like learning to crawl again!
    Anyway, I am looking at the Vibiemme Levetta but the grinder I am having a really tough time on picking. Maybe either the Compaq K3T or the Mini Mazzer, the latter could be outside my budget though?
    NB: I’m the only drinker in the house, maybe 5-8 coffees a week - Definitely more when I get a new machine  ;D.
    Really hoping Chris or someone could give me an idea on prices and their recommendations on a grinder for my needs. i.e. doser or doserless
    Is there any shops in Adelaide that has this setup on display or for trying?

    Thanks all

    Richard

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    Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

    Hi Richard--
    I have the VBM and a Macap M4D, and it is a great combo.
    Do not short-change yourself on a grinder--it is as important, if not more important, than the machine.
    That said, the MM or the K3T are good grinders, it all depends on your budget as well.
    Most of the sponsors have prices on their web-sites.
    I can recommend talking to Chris at Talk Coffee, he was most helpful to me.
    I havent found a place in Adelaide with a good selection of grinders on-hand, although The Coffee Barun will order in almost anything you want.
    Greg

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    • #3
      Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

      Thanks Greg,
      Budgets are a bummer! Must say that the M4D does really look sweet though. If I was only looking for a grinder it would definitely be on the cards but as I am after both - its a bit of hit on the old bank acoount.
      Just really after a good all-round package where both parts compliment each other nicely, but on saying that I dont want to go too cheap & then regret it.....
      Is the quality of the grind bewteen the M4D and the K3T/Mini Mazzer that much better to justify the higher price? Couldnt actually find the price on Chriss site for the M4D but got the feeling it was $1k+

      Have been to Rios, they did have some grinders there....might need to go back & have a better look.

      Richard



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      • #4
        Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

        Originally posted by RichardJ link=1225004802/0#2 date=1225006646
        Thanks Greg,
        Budgets are a bummer! Must say that the M4D does really look sweet though. If I was only looking for a grinder it would definitely be on the cards but as I am after both - its a bit of hit on the old bank acoount.
        Just really after a good all-round package where both parts compliment each other nicely, but on saying that I dont want to go too cheap & then regret it.....
        Is the quality of the grind bewteen the M4D and the K3T/Mini Mazzer that much better to justify the higher price? Couldnt actually find the price on Chriss site for the M4D but got the feeling it was $1k+

        Have been to Rios, they did have some grinders there....might need to go back & have a better look.

        Richard
        Hi Richard,

        You are correct that the M4D is exxy- $1190 in chrome micrometric form and less $100 for silver. Supply is also a touch tight at present.

        Id be delighted to run you through some pros and cons of some grinders and to assist with your setup.

        To save on a thesis, it might be worth having a chat?

        VBM is also in very short supply with new stocks not due until late November. We have a couple of Levetta and then we wait :

        Chris

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        • #5
          Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

          As an Adelaidean I also lament the lack of coffee specialists at the level of Talk Coffee, Di Bartoli et al. I bought my first machine from Rio, a few years when they were more specialist (Giotto/Millenium/Wega etc) whereas nowadays they seem more mass-market - the showroom is full of superautomatics. Likewise they usually had an excellent barista each Saturday for pre- and post-sales training and support. Sadly this no longer happens.

          I can highly recommend Chris at Talk Coffee as his advice was invaluable and service was second-to-none. As noted above Mark at The Coffee Barun is offering an increasingly wide selection of both machines and grinders and often has group buys running.

          There are other Adelaide retailers but none really match Talk Coffee and Di Bartoli.

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          • #6
            Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

            Thanks Chris.
            Will have a chat with you next week.
            Not in a rush, but looking at a purchase sometime before xmas would be a winner - on holidays then, plenty of time to practice!

            David,
            Know what you mean about Rio, went in there a while back looking at coffee machines & asked about the VBM - had not heard of it....sigh...good ol Adelaide. Must pop in to the Coffee Barun at some point. After living in Melbourne for a couple of years, I really lament the lack of any specialty shops in Adelaide!  

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            • #7
              Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

              Gentlemen.

              If you are looking for M4D I have good stock....that would be chrome body and micrometric adjustment.

              Regardz,
              Attilio

              first / original CS site sponsor.

              Oh and I also have very good stocks of
              Diadema Junior Extra and
              Diadema Regal.

              Compare them to the look and finish of the VBM!

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              • #8
                Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                Originally posted by Fresh_Coffee link=1225004802/0#6 date=1225087878
                Oh and I also have very good stocks of
                Diadema Junior Extra and
                Diadema Regal.
                Gday Attilio,

                Where can I find some info (and photos) of the Diadema Regal mate? Cant locate it on the BFC website... :-?

                Mal.

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                • #9
                  Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                  *snip*
                  Just really after a good all-round package where both parts compliment each other nicely, but on saying that I dont want to go too cheap & then regret it.....
                  Is the quality of the grind bewteen the M4D and the K3T/Mini Mazzer that much better to justify the higher price?
                  *snip*

                  Richard
                  I cant say very much about that--I bought the M4D for convenience and other reasons over the Mini. In addition, I wanted a doserless, and the price difference to the Mazzer E was not great. I was actually counting on the basic grind to be very similar.

                  I havent tried the K3T although it has a lot of followers, and is seen as a value for money grinder.

                  In basic quality terms you will be able to beat all but the best cafe coffee easily with either of your choices.

                  Greg

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                  • #10
                    Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                    Originally posted by GregWormald link=1225004802/0#8 date=1225096116
                    In basic quality terms you will be able to beat all but the best cafe coffee easily with either of your choices.

                    Greg
                    Thats good to know....Coming from a 15bar $139 machine and a coffee/spice grinder - I am starting at a very low base. Sadly though, I still consider some of my brews as good as some of the local coffee shops, lol.
                    Still, its been good to cut my teeth on it, although very frustrating - especially inconsistent grinds/brew - drives me nuts.
                    If the upgrade goes ahead, Ill have a hell of a learning curve ahead of me but looking forward to it - just yearning for a bloody good cuppa!

                    Richard

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                    • #11
                      Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                      Originally posted by RichardJ link=1225004802/0#9 date=1225100522
                      Ill have a hell of a learning curve ahead of me but looking forward to it - just yearning for a bloody good cuppa!
                      I went from whoa to go.
                      No earlier machines.
                      No upgrades.
                      The learning curve shouldnt be too steep for you.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                        Richard,
                        Like you I am still learning. Did my research here and then talked to Chris at Talk Coffee. Hes very helpful.
                        Now the proud owner of a Mini Mazzer. Yes, not the cheapest nor most expensive option, but a very good one!
                        One aspect that hooked me is that if you look after your MM you have more chance of re-selling it and upgrading if you have out grown it.
                        Cheers,
                        Stewart

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                        • #13
                          Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                          Here you go, in response to Mal the one on the left is the Junior Extra and on the right the Regal, and 2 really really really good matching grinders the one on the right being a chrome micrometric M4 and the one on the left being a chrome micrometric MD4.

                          Enjoy...but bear in mind....I am not a fotografeur!

                          Regardz,
                          Attilio
                          first / original CS site sponsor

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                          • #14
                            Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                            Thanks mate,

                            Much appreciated [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

                            Mal.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Quick hello & help on selecting a grinder

                              Sorry to steer this thread a bit more off topic, Richard, but..

                              WOW!!! Beautiful gear, Attilio! One of each please. :

                              (And obviously you dont need to be a fotografeur with subjects like that!)

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