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  • Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

    Hi all, just joined.

    We have a Saeco Via Venezia and recently bought a Sunbeam Espresso series grinder. Our previous being a (dare I say it) spice grinder. I immediately noticed an improvement in the coffee produced however we are no longer getting a nice dry puck after a shot. Instead there is water on the top and the grounds are like a watery mud.

    Ive tried every setting on the grinder from 5 (finest) to 20 course and the portafiler is still filled with water after the shot. The Saeco seems to prefer the coursest settings only and anything under about 15 seems to jam up the Saeco and give really burnt tasting coffee.

    Im wondering if anyone else has bought this grinder and had the same result? is this normal do you think?

    ciao
    Derek

  • #2
    Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

    almost sounds like youre not dosing enough, if youre jamming the machine then the grind is plenty fine enough

    try upping your dose and that should deal with your wet puck issue, I have the same problem on my silvia machine and rocky grinder if ive underdosed a lil bit

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    • #3
      Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

      +2 for underdosing.

      There is a nice simple technique many recommend on here, which I used myself when starting out.

      After dosing/tamping your coffee, place a 5c piece on top. Lock the group into the head, then take out again. The coin should leave a slight impression in the puck.

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      • #4
        Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

        +2 for underdosing.

        Use this simple method for checking your dosing level:

        Fill basket and tamp as you normally would.
        Place a 5c piece on top of the coffee.
        Lock handle into group of machine.
        Remove handle and inspect the coin; it should leave a slight impression on the puck.

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        • #5
          Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

          I think Im dosing enough. Ive tried various amounts of coffee, all with the same result. When the grind is at the fine end it tends to create a very hard puck, but there is still a lot of water on top. If I release the portafiller immediately after the shot, it will spray water and coffee grounds everywhere.

          Im actually starting to now think the issue is the machine not releasing the water after the shot. I might try converting the portafiller to being a non-presurised one and see what happens. I read it makes better coffee that way anyway :-)

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          • #6
            Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

            I just got a new expobar and was having trouble getting the dosing level right. Si I put a blob of playdoh in the PF and placed it in the machine. This then leveled out at the level of the showerscreen and then I placed my tamp ontop to see the level of dosing that was approperate.
            Since then all is good. A good rinse of all parts and back in action. Blutac could also be used. I recomend doing this when the machine is cold.
            Regards
            Crisp Image

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            • #7
              Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

              Does the Saeco have dual wall filters (or some sort of crema enhancing PF), this combined with the lack of a blow off valve could create your soppy pucks from finely ground coffee

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              • #8
                Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

                Originally posted by 497F747B6E75681A0 link=1254489577/6#6 date=1254699619
                Does the Saeco have dual wall filters (or some sort of crema enhancing PF), this combined with the lack of a blow off valve could create your soppy pucks from finely ground coffee

                The Saeco has a pressurised group handle, and this is entirely likely to leave the puck wet on top no matter what you do.

                A search of the site will show you how to "de-pressurise" it and further enhance your coffee. Be warned--this modification requires that you grind, dose and tamp correctly rather than relying on spring pressure for the 30 second extraction.

                Greg

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                • #9
                  Re: Sunbeam Espresso Grinder - New now sloppy grounds

                  Originally posted by 6F5E455F5C7345414D4B492C0 link=1254489577/5#5 date=1254699573
                  I recomend doing this when the machine is cold
                  ;D, lol
                  Great suggestion there crisp, great idea, and with the rings on a pullman.....jsut brilliant!

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