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  • Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

    Am thinking of upgrading my grinder. I have a Rocky/Silvia combo at the moment.

    Gino Rossi CC 45 vs Compak K6 (all other things such as wear and tear being equal) What are your thoughts?

    Thanks!

  • #2
    Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.


    What is your reason for wanting to change from the Rocky tashie?

    You will pay a premium for a small improvement in shot quality IMHO

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    • #3
      Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

      Buy the best you can afford Tashie...

      Going to a K6/SJ will put an increment in the cup over a standard Rocky. You wont have to stand there for a week waiting for it to grind either :

      If you set your sights on your last grinder (notwithstanding the Robur when your numbers come up), you will have something to grow with...

      Chris

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      • #4
        Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

        I went from a Rocky to a Kony, so I can only comment on that comparison, but it was a noticeable difference from the first. The Rocky is just an OK grinder. Compared to a quality espresso grinder, its tolerances are low, and in its original stepped configuration it lacks a usable range of adjustment. The way Mazzer mounts its upper burr and the design of their adjustment system makes Rocky look like a toy. The Malykke grinder I saw in Atlanta last year looks very interesting, indeed! In the US I believe that La Marzocco is selling it, or has the rights, or something like that (http://malykke.dk/eng_default.htm). But at $2000 USD currently with the table stand, it is going to stay quite rare in home use...

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        • #5
          Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

          I am definitely torn because:

          - As Rusty says I could be paying a premium for a fairly minor difference in the cup
          - I like how the Rocky matches with the Silvia on the benchtop

          But on the other hand
          - I could buy a secondhand Compak and it wouldnt cost me that much more as an upgrade
          - The consensus is to always buy the best grinder you can afford...

          I guess the real question is whether the Compak K6 is enough to put a noticeable change in the cup (Opinions please!) Grind time isnt so much an issue as its only home use. I would definitely like to not have clumps in my grounds though!

          Also what is the Silenzio system - I cant find any more information about it online.

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          • #6
            Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

            Consider it this way the Rocky is adequate for the Silvia but the K6 or Kony or similar is much more consistent in grind.

            Consistency or dust to chunky bits ratio is the improvement you should get with the better grinders, this leads to more repeatability of grind, tamp and dose working in a good way for you which gets you better shots.

            If you have some $$ saved and the one you really want is a bit more save for a bit longer then do it once and do it properly

            Silenzio or quiet could be as simple as rubber mounts of the motor and burr carriers but I have no idea :

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            • #7
              Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

              Originally posted by 6D6A6E616963766661680F0 link=1270707480/5#5 date=1270784337
              If you have some $$ saved and the one you really want is a bit more save for a bit longer then do it once and do it properly  
              That is a slippery slope to go down... I can think of quite a lot of things I really want ;D

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              • #8
                Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                Gday Tashie....

                I think you would be very pleased with output from the K6, which is a mid-sized cafe grinder. You might be up for a set of new (original, not generic) burr-plates and a general clean-up but I doubt you would ever need to upgrade further. With the new burrs (if needed) the improved quality of the grind over the Rocky will be quite noticeable in the cup - An incremental improvement, yes but quite a decent one.

                The Doser on the K6 is also very well designed and sweeps very cleanly, so you wont end up having to spend too much time on clean-up after a brew session. It is a big beast though but if you could locate a short hopper to replace the standard one, then this becomes less of an issue.

                Definitely in the class of grinder though that will last a lifetime in a domestic situation..... If I was in your shoes, Id buy it....

                Mal.

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                • #9
                  Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                  I went from a Rocky to a Macap M4D, and Id do it again.

                  That said, it all depends on where you want to spend your money. If its in the cup, then a better grinder will make a noticeable difference--more of a difference than youd get going to an HX, IMO.

                  Greg

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                  • #10
                    Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                    Originally posted by 7E4B5C5E6E564B5458555D390 link=1270707480/8#8 date=1270810613
                    I went from a Rocky to a Macap M4D, and Id do it again.
                    I went from an Iberital Challenge to a Macap M4D, and Id do it again,then I went & upgraded again to a Mazzer Major

                    I noticed differences in the cup & general ease of preparation  on every grinder upgrade

                    The general ease of use in the K6 should not be underestimated

                    KK

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                    • #11
                      Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                      For the original question:

                      The compak k6 is way better than a rossi rr45 or cc45. It has continuous micrometric adjustment where the rossis only have stepped adjustment. The doser is way better on the compak. The design of the compak is also a lot sleeker i think.

                      Rockys seem to go for a lot on the 2nd hand market. If i were you id sell your rocky and go for one of the k6s on ebay. Cant really go wrong with a compak and the burrs are cheap on the k6.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                        Originally posted by 786D7F6465690C0 link=1270707480/6#6 date=1270789490
                        I can think of quite a lot of things I really want
                        I know that one, just blew about 1/2 the new grinder $ on another machine ;D Now back to making some money for either that K10 or Robur : In your case if you can go the K6, the more I read the more I like the Compaks

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                        • #13
                          Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                          There are eight Gino Rossi CC45A grinders (claimed new in unopened boxes) lined up on a certain auction site.  All with bids of $300 odd & all finishing in the next six hours.  I detest the things but the price is right.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                            Hey Tashie you got the upgrade bug Same here but I have to finish my rebuild project to pair it with, then Lucy might move on to a new home. Who knows.

                            Originally posted by 1E302939031433292F395C0 link=1270707480/12#12 date=1273555379
                            There are eight Gino Rossi CC45A grinders (claimed new in unopened boxes) lined up on a certain auction site.  All with bids of $300 odd & all finishing in the next six hours.  I detest the things but the price is right.
                            So any winners? Did Tashie grab a bargain? Noticed that they listed as a Gino Rossi CC45 Adel. Anyone know what the electronic dosing is all about? Does that mean it refills after a set number of uses of the doser?

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                            • #15
                              Re: Quick question from someone who doesnt really understand grinders.

                              Yes I picked one u
                              Originally posted by 55787A7C717074190 link=1270707480/13#13 date=1273577755
                              So any winners?
                              Yes I had one of the winning bids. I am very suspicious, where would one even get that many grinders (legally) and why would they want to sell them all at once hence reducing the price?

                              Have sent a msg asking for a pick up address. Unless I get a positive response I certainly wont be sending any $$ thru.

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