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  • Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

    Hi all,

    I need a deli grinder to stand up to approx 5-10kg per day and cam across the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder for just $699 here in Australia. Now it seems to me that this is a very low price for a new deli grinder and I was wondering if anyone knows anything about these grinders.  Its conical burrs are only 63.5mm and this worries me a bit.

    Any feedback on the manufacturer and/or this particular machine?

    Details:

    Gino Rossi Deli Grinder  
    This is a Commercial Automatic Deli Coffee Grinder with the following features:
    Chute & Spring Clip for direct grinding into bags
    Hopper Capacity: 1.2 Kgs
    Grinding Blades: 63.5 mm diameter
    Output of approximately 9 kg per hour
    Dimensions: 200mm (W) x 280mm (D) x 570mm (H)
    Available in Anthricite
    Price:  $699 including GST (Australian Dollars)

    Thanks,

    Bruce

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    Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

    Originally posted by 6B545354495C4E4E583D0 link=1292748614/0#0 date=1292748614
    ts conical burrs are only 63.5mm and this worries me a bit.
    The burrs in this grinder are planar, not conical and it would get pretty warm- even over a 250g grind with degradation of the final product. Consider it equivalent to perhaps a Mazzer mini-e or SJ- little more than domestic grinders. its the cask wine of deli grinders.

    Real bag grinders are far more expensive and the planar varietes have burrs of 80-140mm diameter.

    With grinders, you gets what you pays for CW

    Youd be better off to look for an old dedicated bag grinder.

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    • #3
      Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

      Yep to small. Go the bay of evil for a Climax branded deli grinder (15-20kg/hr). They turn up one or two a week most times. Still available new too at $1.2-1.4k I think.

      For the really serious bag grinders look at Ditting, think they start at $2k+

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      • #4
        Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

        Originally posted by 484F4B444C465343444D2A0 link=1292748614/2#2 date=1292811323
        Yep to small. Go the bay of evil for a Climax branded deli grinder (15-20kg/hr). They turn up one or two a week most times. Still available new too at $1.2-1.4k I think.

        For the really serious bag grinders look at Ditting, think they start at $2k+
        Curious to know why youve recommended just one brand here bf?

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        • #5
          Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

          Climax and Ditting makes 2, no?

          Theres also Mahlkönig

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          • #6
            Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

            Originally posted by 42404C44444A4D50230 link=1292748614/4#4 date=1292814302
            Climax and Ditting makes 2, no?

            Theres also Mahlkönig
            ...and Compak

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            • #7
              Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

              Originally posted by 6E31293F343F333A3A3939313D325C0 link=1292748614/5#5 date=1292814645
              Originally posted by 42404C44444A4D50230 link=1292748614/4#4 date=1292814302
              Climax and Ditting makes 2, no?

              Theres also Mahlkönig
              ...and Compak
              And DIP! ;D

              The smallest Ditting Deli Grinder will overheat the coffee if you are doing 5 to 10kg a day, unless you rest it between bags. I guarantee it.

              I dont think the Climax would do any better, though happy to stand corrected by anyone who actually has first hand knowledge of these grinders.

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              • #8
                Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                Originally posted by 4355505041434F46464545200 link=1292748614/6#6 date=1292815022
                The smallest Ditting Deli Grinder will overheat the coffee if you are doing 5 to 10kg a day, unless you rest it between bags.I guarantee it.

                I dont think the Climax would do any better, though happy to stand corrected by anyone who actually has first hand knowledge of these grinders.  
                Correct you are Den,

                I have the Ditting and have used the Climax extensively. You wouldnt grind more than 500g-1kg (max.) in either without giving them a good rest.

                Chris

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                • #9
                  Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                  For the kind of volume you are talking about on a bench grinder....you are talking say 250 gram retail sales as a minimum with occasional kilo sales?

                  Depends on the volume you intend to do in one "sitting" really. A modern Climax should be good for 250 grams at a time with a little  time to rest in between.....so also depends on whether your 5 to 10 kg is evenly spread through the day or not.....starting price these days probably around $1400.00??? But I dont know that I would put a kilo through one for that you would need to ask no one but them....

                  I recently imported a new grinder that is suitable to the purpose you describe.

                  It still cost me a good $2000.00 or more plus GST to import direct from the manufacturer, and it has 120 mm grinding plates. This is a "cheap grinder".

                  I have a very good name floor standing grinder with 150 mm plates with dedicated air cooling system....just the grinding plates alone cost around $1000.00 or more per set.  Certainly this is for much higher volumes than you require.

                  However, somewhere in there lies a happy medium, and you would be best to stick to good name grinders and deal with reputable importers and their dealers who can advise you properly.

                  That is not to say that Gino Rossi is not a good brand, quite the opposite is true, but there are horses for courses and in the new price bracket you mentioned and 63 mm grinding plates I would venture to say there is nothing that will work properly for you except if your total volume is small with grinding done in small short bursts.

                  Hope this helps answer the question.

                  Regardz,
                  Attilio
                  very first CS site sponsor

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                  • #10
                    Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                    Originally posted by 6C7A7F7F6E6C6069696A6A0F0 link=1292748614/3#3 date=1292811890
                    Curious to know why youve recommended just one brand here bf?
                    Just a few brands extra to look at, not saying they are better or best. I am sure there is a dozen+ brands of quality bag grinders to look at. Also these are a couple I have used.

                    The Climax I have after 500g for Plunger beans are just warm (still under 30 degrees I guess). In my case never a problem as that would be a max lot more normal is 250g.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                      My Dip is happy to grind 500gm (2 x 250gm bags) without getting too warm.

                      I have not pushed it as I dont need to. I can grind a bag, bag some whole beans then come back and grind another. Giving any bag grinder a rest just makes common sense I think.

                      As long as it is a true bag grinder.

                      Heat build up will always be a by-product of grinding and friction, some do it better than others but no matter what the brand on the front of the grinder, it cant bend the laws a physics.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                        Thanks for all the advice guys... much appreciated. I recently landed a contract to supply many 250g bags of ground coffee on pretty much a daily basis. I tried to talk the client out of buying ground but they wouldnt have it any other way so I definitely have to get myself a suitable machine to keep up with the demand. I could easily enough stagger the grinding throughout the day but it would be easier to get it done all at once if possible. But seeing as how capacity and heat management come with a far higher price tag I will probably have to settle with a more affordable machine and get the job done in dribs and drabs until I can afford something up to the task.

                        I am curious... what kind of money are we talking about for a Compak machine that might get the job done semi-affordable... and what does DiP have on offer? (theyre Romanian arent they?)

                        Thanks again

                        Cheers,

                        Bruce

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                        • #13
                          Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                          FYI... Ive been abusing a spare EM 0480 in the mean time... it has been holding up remarkably well but that wont last

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                          • #14
                            Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                            You guys need to live on the edge a little and push your little deli grinders a little harder :

                            Ive ground 60+ kg of coffee non-stop on a Ditting KR1403 and a Malkoenig VTA 6SW running side by side, 500 grams at a time. Decaf and ground, nuff said.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Anyone have an opinion on the Gino Rossi Deli Grinder?

                              I think it was less of a can you and more of a should you argument Dave

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