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  • Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

    Im a newbie and I need a grinder. After lots of reading and asking opinions basically down to a short list of 3. The Mazzer Kony E, the Robur E or the Compak K10 WBC. Value for money no doubt K10 WBC but should I just bite the bullet once and for all and get the Robur E. I mean its big but beats having 2 grinders, right? Vertical space is no problem for me. It does seem to be the reference standard. Other than the price is there any downside?

    It will be for home use.

    Trouble is Chris says Ill have to wait till April if I want one.

    regards
    JohnT

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    Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

    What about the Versalab?

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      Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

      Welcome JohnT.... [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

      The problem is, theres no easy answer to be honest. All the grinders at this level (and youve left out a few) do a great job, given that theyre all designed to do this in a commercial setting. Only way for you to know which one is right for you, is to get some hands-on experience with as many of them as you can. That way, youll pick up on the pros and cons of each one and assign a preference ranking.

      I love my Kony-E :-*... Its quick, clean, quiet, very easy to use/adjust and of course produces the goods where the quality of grind is concerned. Now that the Macap M7K-Digital is soon to be available, I reckon this one should definitely be on your shortlist - Would be on mine if I didnt already have the Kony...

      Mal.

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      • #4
        Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

        Thanks Mal. Coming from a dare I say Nespresso background I say to myself "What am I getting myself into?". I suppose no pain no gain. ;D

        Really enjoying meeting up & talking with the coffee enthusiasts though!!!

        OK, now to research the Macap 7K.

        regards,
        JohnT

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        • #5
          Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

          Originally posted by 202522243E2B3F394A0 link=1298614941/3#3 date=1298616449
          Thanks Mal. Coming from a dare I say Nespresso background I say to myself "What am I getting myself into?".
          Hi John,

          Coming from a Nespresso background, any good grinder K3T upwards will be a quantum leap from where you have been. There is a lot of hype around the great grinders and if your palate is good, you may notice a difference at the top end. That said, the biggest influence on whats in the cup is going to be your level of skill in putting it there.

          In my opinion, the conicals are terrific grinders for volume applications and possibly for the black coffee drinker (whichever way you have it). So for me, an unqualified yes. Under milk, nope. Ultimately, it will come down to which rocks your boat.

          For mine, there is absolutely no value in having a Robur on your bench unless youre the guy who drives a V12 as well. Match it to a 2 group and many dinner parties. Its overkill and may go faster, but is irrelevant in the home. It wont do anything a Kony wont and the extra speed is not needed.

          So far, I am yet to use or see a versalab. At this point for me its a bit of a joke and has relevance only to those pent up on process. For the dollar ask, it should be made out of platinum or come with complimentary tickets to collect it at origin :. I am not in the least bit interested in the fiddling around required to use one and to make a run of shots would be ridiculous. I see it as the geek grinder.

          Moral of the story, be careful not to get sucked in by that hype. Even an M4D would be a brilliant match. Buy the right grinder for you, not what others tell you to buy.

          Chris

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            Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

            Not sure if you have found this thread yet, might provide a bit more info for you. http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1268192465

            I have been running the K10 for the last month or so at 6-10 coffees a day. Lots of Pros over what I did have and exceptionally happy. Cons needs a large purge in stock form due to grind retention in the chute to the doser in stock form (mods to come) if left idle for to long.

            Have fun playing and looking at the options.

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            • #7
              Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

              Originally posted by 4A67636F620E0 link=1298614941/2#2 date=1298616087
              Now that the Macap M7 Digital is soon to be available, I reckon this one should definitely be on your shortlist
              Hmm...very interested in this one.  When will it be available & does anyone have any pictures to show?

              Gavin.

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              • #8
                Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                Yes Gavin- we have some on order.

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                • #9
                  Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                  awesome, Chris - would love to see one in the flesh when it arrives.

                  just when I thought I had made up my mind on the Kony-e :

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                    Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                    Originally posted by 4442554A4D230 link=1298614941/8#8 date=1298683678
                    awesome, Chris - would love to see one in the flesh when it arrives. 
                    Impossible Gavin as the grinder consists of pretty much only metal and plastic  ;D

                    You will however be able to see it in the metal.

                    Attilio and I have a few coming in for evaluation.

                    The M7D discussion thread can be found at http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1295409969/0#0

                    Cheers

                    Chris

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                    • #11
                      Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                      "For the dollar ask, it should be made out of platinum or come with complimentary tickets to collect it at origin ."

                      Chris, its funny you say this giving you nothing about the versalab. The current asking price is USD 1700, which given the aussie is at parity makes the Versalab a compelling buy.

                      regards paul

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                      • #12
                        Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                        Originally posted by 4A4D5F5D5F545F483A0 link=1298614941/10#10 date=1298687096
                        Chris, its funny you say this giving you nothing about the versalab. The current asking price is USD 1700, which given the aussie is at parity makes the Versalab a compelling buy.
                        Yes Paul,

                        I also say:
                        Originally posted by 6E5B56516579555C5C5F5F3A0 link=1298614941/4#4 date=1298619240
                        So far, I am yet to use or see a versalab. At this point for me its a bit of a joke and has relevance only to those pent up on process....... I am not in the least bit interested in the fiddling around required to use one and to make a run of shots would be ridiculous. I see it as the geek grinder.
                        Just like you, I am entitled to an opinion. Regardless, I have no interest in it.

                        Chris

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                        • #13
                          Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                          Originally posted by 14212C2B1F032F26262525400 link=1298614941/4#4 date=1298619240
                          In my opinion, the conicals are terrific grinders for volume applications and possibly for the black coffee drinker (whichever way you have it). So for me, an unqualified yes. Under milk, nope.
                          Chris - Im interested in a conical - mainly for the many things Ive read about it improving things "in the cup" but I always drink my coffee with milk - so it sounds like there wouldnt really be a benefit in upgrading?

                          Sniff

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                            Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                            Originally posted by 7B657D7066657E7F110 link=1298614941/12#12 date=1298691453
                            Chris - Im interested in a conical - mainly for the many things Ive read about it improving things "in the cup" but I always drink my coffee with milk - so it sounds like there wouldnt really be a benefit in upgrading?
                            Hi Sniff,

                            Id suggest you try your grinder v a conical and see if you can pick a difference- ideally in a blind tasting. Thats the only way to get a definitive answer.

                            Cheers

                            Chris

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                              Re: Which Conical Grinder? Kony, Robur or K10 WBC?

                              Originally posted by 54616C6B5F436F66666565000 link=1298614941/9#9 date=1298686384
                              Impossible Gavin as the grinder consists of pretty much only metal and plastic Grin

                              You will however be able to see it in the metal.
                              Awww...I was hoping I could order one with a leather-lined body & hopper

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