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    Hi,

    I am wanting to know the maximum amount of money I have to spend on an electric grinder to get the best possible flavor in the cup. I am not after bells and whistles. I own a pharos hand grinder and do not want to step down in quality of grind which I believe is quite high with the Pharos. Is it $800 minimum. Is it $1000. I would appreciate absolute honesty in terms of amount I have to spend.

    Thank you.

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    Originally posted by FineGrind View Post
    Hi,

    I am wanting to know the maximum amount of money I have to spend on an electric grinder to get the best possible flavor in the cup. I am not after bells and whistles. I own a pharos hand grinder and do not want to step down in quality of grind which I believe is quite high with the Pharos. Is it $800 minimum. Is it $1000. I would appreciate absolute honesty in terms of amount I have to spend.

    Thank you.
    Best bang for buck. I would say either the Breville Smart Grinder <$200 (I think). Or preferably, and the much better grinder in my opinion would be the Compak K3 Push (or touch). You can get the K3P for around the $500 price. Anything above this probably won't improve grind quality all that much, just speed.

    David

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    • #3
      Is the only difference between a 58mm and a 68mm conical burr the speed in which the coffee is ground?

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      • #4
        The best possible grinder for the lowest possible money.

        I'm not the best to answer that. But I believe so. On the other hand, you're looking at a lot more $$ for a conical. Both the K3Push/Touch and the mazzer Mini are all flat burrs.

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        • #5
          If what you need is an electrified Pharos, the only thing I can think of would be a Versalab M3 which is serious money, around $2000 last time I checked.

          The reason I say this is because with the Pharos you have two things - a large conical burr spinning very slowly, and the ground coffee falling straight into a container. No other electric grinder really replicates that better than the Versalab, but opinions differ on whether it's worth the money, given that it is such a niche product - similar in many ways to the early ergonomics and design issues people raised with the Pharos.

          What I'm getting at is that IF there is any validity to the whole conical / flat burr debate (I think there is) and you are prepared to accept nothing less than the grind quality of the Pharos, may I suggest a cordless drill as anything else will likely be a disappointment.

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          • #6
            It is hard for us to judge; only those that own a Pharos would be able to advise on which grinders might produce equivalent or better quality, assuming they have tried a range of grinders. I am guessing you will need to spend in excess of $1000 as the Pharos uses a high end conical burr set. You would be starting from around $2000 to get into the high end conical grinder range.

            I think it might be best to go along to a Espresso machine specialist with a showroom and a good range of grinders and see for yourself. Take along your Pharos to compare.

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            • #7
              The best possible grinder for the lowest possible money.

              Wow. Out of my league here... Is the Pharos really that good? I may have to buy one. =D

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              • #8
                I think to replicate a slow big conical, you'd have to buy a slow big conical such as a Kony/Robur/K10 or similar.... It's not difficult to spend in excess of $2k for this gear.

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                • #9
                  For what its worth I own a Pharos and a K3 touch

                  In the cup the pharos produces are far better espresso for me

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
                    I think to replicate a slow big conical, you'd have to buy a slow big conical such as a Kony/Robur/K10 or similar.
                    That's what I thought but how close would a top-end flat burr grinder ( eg Compak K6 or K8, Macap M4D, Mazzer Supper Jolly, Major), come to the higher end conicals in grind quality?

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                    • #11
                      Baratza Preciso ~$330 rrp, will kill any flat-burr mazzer across entire range.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JamesM View Post
                        Baratza Preciso ~$330 rrp, will kill any flat-burr mazzer across entire range.
                        That's it. Out with that Major-E...

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                        • #13
                          Re: The best possible grinder for the lowest possible money.

                          It's that good?? Happy to provide my Preciso for any shootouts

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                          • #14
                            To get similar results from an electric the best value would be the Wega 8.6 which is basically a Compak K10 rebadged and can be picked up for under $2000. There is no other large, conical burr grinder in this price range and there is certainly nothing that will compare with the Pharos at the price the OP wants to pay.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by JamesM View Post
                              Baratza Preciso ~$330 rrp, will kill any flat-burr mazzer across entire range.
                              I have read that the baratza heats the grinds did you notice this ?

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