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  • #16
    Great news Joe!

    Thanks for your kind words as well.

    I hope your grinder brings you much pleasure.

    Chris

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
      Great news Joe!

      Thanks for your kind words as well.

      I hope your grinder brings you much pleasure.

      Chris
      Chris,
      I'm so happy to be home today after a month in hospital, that coming home to a package as impressive as this, is really just the icing on the cake.

      Thank-you also for the beans. They made opening the box infinitely more pleasurable. The smell of fresh beans is one of life's most indulgent pleasures.

      Can't wait to give it a workout tomorrow!

      Cheers,
      Joe

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      • #18
        Hi Joe,
        was wondering if you can provide any feed back to how your grinder is going, as I am looking at getting an M5... thanks

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        • #19
          Hi okitoki, I've been using it for a while now on a daily basis.
          I cannot say enough just how good the Macap is. (btw, the only difference between the m4 and m5 is hopper size)

          A few things I noticed which may help you:
          The Grinder fits on my bench and clears the overhead cupboards by 20mm - very important. The grinder is big, but well designed, relatively heavy, stunningly finished (very high quality chrome) and compact footprint.

          The Manual doser, is probably an oversight on my part. I'm mostly only grinding for my other half at the moment, as I am unable to have coffee as it reacts badly with the medication I am on while I'm recovering from surgery.
          In this respect I probably should have bought the electronic doser, but I had reasons for the manual one at the time of purchase, which I believed to be more important. For every day use however, I think the eDoser would be a much more compact and simpler arrangement.

          I think the M4D would be the perfect machine.

          -IF- you drink espresso based drinks.

          I absolutely love the smoothness of the worm drive grind adjustment, it is extremely precise and simple to use.
          The machine is very very quiet. it is quieter than most kitchen appliances, and certainly quieter than the espresso machine.

          It's simple to keep clean, doesn't spill grounds all over the place, although it did take a bit to get used to, so initially I did spill a bit.

          My only recommendation would be that if you are making coffee for one or two people mostly, then the electronic doser is probably a far better and simpler more compact solution.

          I chose the manual doser model for a couple of reasons.
          1. I have family that descend on me, and I need to make 6 or more milks on short notice (which is why I have a 2 group machine at home...)
          2. I want a grinder on for the minimum amount of time possible ( I was expecting it to be much louder than it actually is) to produce a consistent grind and should someone else want to make a coffee (heaven forbid they touch my machines!) I didn't want them mucking around with things they dont understand - hence the manual doser - just pull the lever, tamp and go.

          I don't know how much bean volume you are consuming on a daily basis, but I find the M4 hopper handles 0.5kg beans without any problem, and that is enough for me!

          Hope that helps you.

          regards,
          Joe

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          • #20
            I recently purchased the Mazzer Mini-E, after much reading and taking references from this post I decided on the Mazzer. I am very happy with this machine in all regards. Thanks to all for your advice.

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            • #21
              I'm a bit late to this thread but figured I would add my voice for anyone else trying to choose between these two. I'm in the happy position of currently owning both the M4D and the Mazzer Mini E. Both are very good grinders but when it comes time to consolidate my households I will probably keep the Mazzer. The Macap is faster (quite a bit) and probably has the edge in looks, but I find the Mazzer to be tidier and more convenient due to the porta filter holder. From memory it has bigger burrs too. In the cup? Well, I can't tell the difference. It's a close thing, but that's my two cents.

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              • #22
                I have added the Mazzer MiniE modA doserless to my bench and am over the moon with this choice .The 64mm burrs produce a fluffy electronic dose into the porta filler .

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                • #23
                  Hi All
                  I want to upgrade my grinder and have decided I want a conical grinder.

                  I have looked at the mazzer and macap, but they have planar burrs.
                  I dont have a problem with paying the dollars for a top grinder but which is the best home conical grinder.
                  I definately dont want something thats a metre tall and need a forklift to move it.
                  a polished unit would be nice to match my Giotto Rocket PP.
                  I got my unit from Chris at Talk Coffee and love it.

                  any help would be much appreciated

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                  • #24
                    Hawko all the mazzer & macap [read serious] conicals are #@@# huge and require a lifting jig to shift :-). Good luck in your search and if you find a "quality" conical the size of my M4D i'm interested also :-) I am currently more than happy with the pairing of the M4D and my Rocket.

                    Steve

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Hawko777 View Post
                      Hi All
                      I want to upgrade my grinder and have decided I want a conical grinder.

                      I have looked at the mazzer and macap, but they have planar burrs.
                      I dont have a problem with paying the dollars for a top grinder but which is the best home conical grinder.
                      I definately dont want something thats a metre tall and need a forklift to move it.
                      a polished unit would be nice to match my Giotto Rocket PP.
                      I got my unit from Chris at Talk Coffee and love it.

                      any help would be much appreciated
                      Why not talk to Chris again, bet he can come up with something that will tick the boxes.

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                      • #26
                        have a look at the monster hand grinder thread
                        http://coffeesnobs.com.au/grinders/3...er-hg-one.html

                        If manual hand grinding of the HG One is not an option, the Versalab M3 looks like another good option... but will cost a few pennies to get one

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                        • #27
                          Hi Mono
                          Yes, when I've looked at the dimensions of the conicals, they're bigger than I like. It'll over power everything in my kitchen.
                          I like the idea of the slower grind speed and no heating up of the beans.
                          if all else fails, I might end up choosing between the Mazzer and Macap. Think I will have to toss a coin on them two, as they seem
                          fairly comparable.

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                          • #28
                            I have a Macap M4D and a HG One in my kitchen. The wife is left handed and uses the M4D. I mostly use the manual HG One. The HG One is obviously slower than the M4D but provides large conical burrs in a home friendly package.

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                            • #29
                              I have both a Mazzer Mini Electronic (with Super Jolly burrs) as well as an HG one. I use the HG one the vast majority of the time and only break out the Mazzer (which I do love) when there are lots of people wanting a coffee.

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                              • #30
                                I have had a Mazzer Mini Electronic and found it to be a solid reliable grinder. Upgraded for a Macap M7D which after a couple of years ownership, still impresses. The two grinders are not comparable in terms of ability or price but anyone thinking of going up to a big conical will get IMO a large increase in speed and grind quality.

                                The M7D grinds about 20 gms in 3.8 seconds. I am also able to nuance the grind to extract varied flavour profiles and flavour clarity I could not achieve with the Mazzer Mini.
                                Don't be put off by the large size, after a week you won't notice it. (so much)

                                The biggest issue for the M7D and other conicals in home use is grind retention. With the Macap expect to grind 20gms of coffee to clear the chute of stale grinds. In addition grind adjustment can use up a lot of coffee if you get it wrong.

                                I consider these issues minor compared to the joys of high speed and wonderful grind quality these large conicals offer.

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