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  • #31
    Personally I wouldn't be putting anything like that near my grinder, let alone partially inside it!

    In some grinders, I've found that without the hopper, a spare PF basket will fit nicely in. Yes it will popcorn a bit, but at least it bounces straight off and back into the burrs.

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    • #32
      Oh dear, was following this thread with some interest, now like a few others recently its started to get a bit silly.

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      • #33
        What about more BEANS.

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        • #34
          It's been enlightening to read others take on this and it would seem that a commercial grinder needs to be used in a similar way in the home in standard form or modified for less usage. I will think about changing my Mazzer to something like the Vario I think. I love the big sexy grinder in my kitchen but I would prefer a cleaner more constant experience that something like the Vario should bring.

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          • #35
            My suggestion: No need to change what you have if you have a good grinder. Career people use the variety we have here -and more- every day.

            Just an opinion, but I really struggle to see the value in spending hundreds to sell a Mazzer and buy a Vario. Better to have someone show you how to use what you have efficiently.

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            • #36
              How about a cup of old beans? (with a lid on it).

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              • #37
                Originally posted by astr0b0y View Post
                I will think about changing my Mazzer to something like the Vario I think. I love the big sexy grinder in my kitchen but I would prefer a cleaner more constant experience that something like the Vario should bring.
                Not sure what your saying here AB, I have a Mazzer Mini, don't find it a dirty machine, a quick daily wipe of the bench top (5 seconds max) keeps the area spick and span, not an onerous chore.

                What do you mean by "constant experience" if you referring to variation in grind not my experience, once set my Mini is rock solid, nothing changes, the only adjustment to grind setting I have to make are very minor as the beans age over the week or 8 days it takes me to get through a roast.

                The only changes I've made to the machine are to remove the finger guard in the hopper, I use an Orphan Espresso dosing funnel, keeps the area under the doser nice and clean.

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                • #38
                  I too find the Mazzer quite clean. By cleaner experience I wasn't referring to mess, more about being straight forward. I see what both you and Chris are saying, and I do enjoy the results my Mazzer provides as long as q bit of effort is put in. The chances of me actually changing my grinder are very small - this is more effort that continuing with what I have really. Since I've persisted with a 1/3 full hopper from a couple of days ago my process has shortened and 'cleaned' up as well. I think I was just a bit over measuring a single dose and cleaning out the chute with a skewer for each shot as well as mucking about with clumping which has reduced quite a bit with the fuller hopper.
                  I spent a number of years as a barista over a decade ago in NZ and had forgotten about how much is involved in producing a good constant cup. Reducing variables seems to be the best way to get good results for me.

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                  • #39
                    I run the grinder to make sure it is empty, "measure" enough beans using the dry, empty portafilter (one fill per shot, plus a half) and run the grinder for a second or two before filling the basket. I then run the grinder empty after I've finished. Bugger all waste, nice and easy.

                    After this thread, I'm experimenting with using a glass salt grinder to "weigh down" the beans.

                    This is in a Compak K3P.

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                    • #40
                      Like most other people who add beans on demand, I just use a Tamper resting in the throat of a small plastic cup that serves as a funnel/hopper.

                      Never have any problems with grind quality. If we have a large turn-up of friends or relos, then the hopper 'proper' goes back on and everything is sweet...

                      Mal.

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                      • #41
                        Could there be a risk of jamming the burrs if too much weight was applied? (I personally just fill my hopper, but weighing in here out of curiosity)

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                        • #42
                          No mate...

                          The Tamper I use for this is an Aluminium one, and quite light. The maximum quantity of beans I can put in the 'cup' is only ~80g so never going to cause an issue with jamming in my situation. Of course, that is something to keep in mind, depending on one's individual circumstances...

                          Mal.

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                          • #43
                            You guys are nuts Grind a second, chuck the stale stuff away. Put two scoops of beans in hopper. Grind, tamp, extract, enjoy. Get on with whatever your were doing. Simple.

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                            • #44
                              Grinding a single dose Vs using a full hopper

                              Originally posted by okitoki View Post
                              My method is pretty much the same as Yelta's method.
                              As a result, my method is very similar! I had a good teacher, heh

                              Single dosing in a Macap, after weighing out 18g using my Acaia scales. Using a stainless jam funnel kindly donated by Okitoki acting as a mini-hopper, with the stock plastic Rancilio tamper in top to stop beans jumping out.

                              Using a firm bristled brush to then ensure that there's very minimal grind retention in the doser and no stale grinds

                              Yes, it takes a bit longer. But it's all part of the enjoyment for me!

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by bodyboardingbum View Post
                                As a result, my method is very similar! I had a good teacher, heh

                                Single dosing in a Macap, after weighing out 18g using my Acaia scales. Using a stainless jam funnel kindly donated by Okitoki acting as a mini-hopper, with the stock plastic Rancilio tamper in top to stop beans jumping out.

                                Using a firm bristled brush to then ensure that there's very minimal grind retention in the doser and no stale grinds

                                Yes, it takes a bit longer. But it's all part of the enjoyment for me!
                                Not sure I would describe the method as enjoyable, its simply what I do to get the job done, its quick and works well.

                                Perhaps if I was still involved in the morning rush to to get to work I may see things differently.

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