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  • #31
    Just as a comparison , i took a half hour to strip and clean thoroughly my K3 collecting and weighing every grind i could find.
    Result..and this id from a grinder that has not been cleaned for near 2 months of daily use... was total 4.2 gms.
    Most of that was "loose grinds in the discharge port and hanging about in the sweepers, and one bean jammed in the center of the lower burr.
    There was probably less than 1 gram stuck to the "non working areas of the grind chamber.
    This gives me no concern as i have the common habit of purging the grinder with 4+ gms each morning before the first brew, and as those "stuck" grinds dont come into contact with the grinds in process, i am pretty confident that my shots are fresh grinds from the start.
    With a good sensible operating procedure , retention is a non issue.

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    • #32
      Yeah I'm fairly confident the commercials would be better grinders than the home varieties. I agree with Tok in that I'm not after all of the 'features' outside of those that help me standardise my coffee making.

      Why do I want that? so I can learn more about what different coffee's taste like and even different ways shots can be pulled for different flavour.

      Don't be so quick dish crap at me for raising "The grind retention" issue either. Stale coffee does not taste like fresh coffee.
      Purging my grinder of a few grams a time, and completely cleaning it has resulted in better coffee Vs not dumping the retained grinds.

      You think I'm being silly about it or unreasonably obsessive? Coffee is only going up in price so I'd like to keep my wastage down. Doesn't seem like much to dump a few grams each day? My Breville is working at about 15% a shot (working on 1/day). That's ~$65 a year for me. If I want to enjoy higher profile blends, a cup at night, or single origins then the cost goes up a lot more.

      If part of the cost is the extra $ a grinder may cost me, then 'mess' etc is simply about opportunity cost. If I'm cleaning up coffee I'm not using that time more effectively elsewhere. For those who find it cathartic or somehow a pilgrimage into the authentic coffee experience.... good for you and keep making mess! :P I have other ways I escape the world.

      Good food for thought too Denwol . A friend has an M4D and it's a lovely grinder. Didn't seem that messy and can be set quite accurately I thought??
      Last edited by mgrobins; 5 July 2014, 11:09 PM.

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      • #33
        Really sounds like you need a HG-one

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        • #34
          I'm Concerned that I may just be trying to convince myself of that Steve :P.

          Once I got past the reviews citing it as some sort of orgasmic, spiritual experience it became clear that it is a very elegantly designed product. I've spoken with another fellow and already have some thought on how to motorize it in a reversible yet neat manner. Hand grinding was the single issue I have with it . Versalab also sound great but I can't budget the $2.2k+.

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          • #35
            Mgrobins will be interested if you do go down the pathway of a diy motorized HGone. The key is to still maintain its elegance with a motor attached to it.

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            • #36
              I have some ideas . If I'm happy using it as a hand grinder then anything more is a bonus . Just need to decide if that's the case!

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              • #37
                Originally posted by noddyc43 View Post
                .... if you do go down the pathway of a diy motorized HGone. The key is to still maintain its elegance with a motor attached to it.
                Have you seen the German built grinder using Robur burrs ..? ..not exactly "elegant" !
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                • #38
                  A translation for this one page, just wait for it to load.

                  www.kaffee-netz.de/threads/sammelbestellung-fuer-die-cbcrema-muehle.61780/page-17#post-987732 - Translator

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                  • #39
                    I like it actually...

                    Could probably do with a little in the way of aesthetic refinement where the motor and control is concerned but certainly appreciate the bespoke workmanship...

                    Mal.

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