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  • #16
    Originally posted by Journeyman View Post
    Maybe so, but in that case s/he needs to identify which one draws the comment. Even then, such comments are just a waste of space and contribute nothing to a conversation.

    cheers...

    If "one" was identifiable within the post I would have identified it.........LOL

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    • #17
      My previous car was a 1989 Mercedes 190E. If that's what a Mazzer Mini is like then I'd probably buy one. I liked that car. Cost me $2000 so it's even cheaper than a high end grinder.

      However, I now own a 2006 Mazda 3 MPS that set be back around $15k. Is it a better car than the old Mercedes? Yes and no. It certainly isn't as comfortable, probably not quite as fuel efficient either. It is a lot faster, more well-equipped and more fun though.

      So what I'm saying is that an old coffee grinder that was cheap compared to a new one is still better in some ways but not in others. I dunno, i don't think I've got the hang of this analogies game.....

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      • #18
        Hi, this is good response, so yes - you did got the hang of the analogy fine, good comparison. Cheers

        Originally posted by noidle22 View Post
        My previous car was a 1989 Mercedes 190E. If that's what a Mazzer Mini is like then I'd probably buy one. I liked that car. Cost me $2000 so it's even cheaper than a high end grinder.

        However, I now own a 2006 Mazda 3 MPS that set be back around $15k. Is it a better car than the old Mercedes? Yes and no. It certainly isn't as comfortable, probably not quite as fuel efficient either. It is a lot faster, more well-equipped and more fun though.

        So what I'm saying is that an old coffee grinder that was cheap compared to a new one is still better in some ways but not in others. I dunno, i don't think I've got the hang of this analogies game.....

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        • #19
          Originally posted by noidle22 View Post
          My previous car was a 1989 Mercedes 190E. If that's what a Mazzer Mini is like then I'd probably buy one. I liked that car. Cost me $2000 so it's even cheaper than a high end grinder.

          However, I now own a 2006 Mazda 3 MPS that set be back around $15k. Is it a better car than the old Mercedes? Yes and no. It certainly isn't as comfortable, probably not quite as fuel efficient either. It is a lot faster, more well-equipped and more fun though.

          So what I'm saying is that an old coffee grinder that was cheap compared to a new one is still better in some ways but not in others. I dunno, i don't think I've got the hang of this analogies game.....
          No , not really, .. my point was you pay todays prices for a 1980's model car(grinder) when you could pay a similar price for a 2014 model .
          Example.. If you had a choice of paying the same price for either a factory fresh, but 1980 spec , MB190... or (say) a 2014 Mazda 6..
          which one would you go for ?

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          • #20
            I would rather have a Robur E with a sunbeam em6910 to a em0480 with a GS3 any day. And here's why.

            The robur can give me the most consistent grind. I know ivd got the worse machine, but I know I can get the optimal extraction. If I have a great machine but a crap grind my machine can't magically improve on a terrible grind.

            The earlier you can improve on something in the chain, usually, the better your coffee will be. Whether it be the farm, the roaster, the grinder or the machine, all of these elements can only take away from what was before it. They can't improve it.

            The roaster can't improve a bad green bean. The grinder can't improve a bad roast and a machine can't improve a bad grind.

            Michael

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            • #21
              Yea i was joking about the analogies thing, it doesn't really make sense.

              And I'd take the Mercedes without a second thought over the Mazda 6. The BK series of Mazda cars are the only decent ones and the MPS line the best of the series. I don't really like any of the others.
              Does this mean I'd prefer an old but good grinder over a new grinder? Nope.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Vinitasse
                Sorry.... can't answer your question at the moment... apparently I've been irradiated and need a bit of a lie down
                Now, now Vinitasse, don't be a dosser!!

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by blend52 View Post
                  No , not really, .. my point was you pay todays prices for a 1980's model car(grinder) when you could pay a similar price for a 2014 model .
                  Example.. If you had a choice of paying the same price for either a factory fresh, but 1980 spec , MB190... or (say) a 2014 Mazda 6..
                  which one would you go for ?
                  No offense to any 'Skyactiv' fans out there but the Mazda 6 would bore me to tears. I would happily take the 190 series Benz and thoroughly enjoy its quirkyness

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                  • #24
                    Is that the doserless Benz? Otherwise the other one's crap.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
                      Is that the doserless Benz? Otherwise the other one's crap.
                      I think it must be the doser model, otherwise it would be the 190E

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                      • #26
                        My other car is a hopper.

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                        • #27
                          This thread seems to have hit the wall!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Vinitasse View Post
                            No offense to any 'Skyactiv' fans out there but the Mazda 6 would bore me to tears. I would happily take the 190 series Benz and thoroughly enjoy its quirkyness
                            ...what if it were an Audi instead of the Mazda ?
                            ..remember, there are plenty of choices of "new" grinders(cars) !

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                            • #29
                              Geez.... I'm feeling a bit left out 'cos my grinder is just a low end Sunbeam EMO480.
                              Yeah, that's "bottom feeding" in the grinder market and if you compare it to cars, maybe the 1970 Datsun 120Y but it works for me so well.

                              Perfect caramel pour with tiger striping.... liquid gold !

                              (yep, you're laughing at me again)

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by terrawarra View Post
                                Geez.... I'm feeling a bit left out 'cos my grinder is just a low end Sunbeam EMO480.
                                Yeah, that's "bottom feeding" in the grinder market and if you compare it to cars, maybe the 1970 Datsun 120Y but it works for me so well.

                                Perfect caramel pour with tiger striping.... liquid gold !

                                (yep, you're laughing at me again)


                                You were saying.....

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