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  • ArnhemR
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    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
    I'm sure the HG One is an excellent device, however the lack of an electric motor eliminates it from my list, when I wake up in the AM I'm looking for coffee, not a workout.
    As Magic Matt says, paired with a lever its something special - no electro-mechanical noise! I understand peoples reluctance to use hand grinders, but once used to the HG-One i find it simply part of a very pleasant routine that leads to coffee that still blows me away with every cup.

    I expect big, bespoke hand grinders like the HG-One will always fill a tiny part of the overall grinder market, its just a step too far from convention for many people.

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  • farravi
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    Absolutely, I have been guilty of the same but I now am often told, I'm a smooth operator, not sure in regards to what but I'm not complaining. [emoji16]

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  • Yelta
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    Originally posted by farravi View Post
    Armegeddon, I can't say I disagree with your last post. The best grinder in the world in the wrong hands can't pull a decent shot however, in regards to the variables, I was alluding to eliminating the variables for extracting a good shot, i.e. Poorly roasted coffee beans, cheap grinder, cheap espresso machine, etc.
    Or, possibly, operator error?

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  • farravi
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    Armegeddon, I can't say I disagree with your last post. The best grinder in the world in the wrong hands can't pull a decent shot however, in regards to the variables, I was alluding to eliminating the variables for extracting a good shot, i.e. Poorly roasted coffee beans, cheap grinder, cheap espresso machine, etc.

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  • Magic_Matt
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    When I was considering a lever machine it was high on my list, just for the novelty of a near-silent operation. Still wouldn't rule it out if and when I decide to upgrade - a year+ of using a comparatively crappy Porlex didn't kill me...

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  • Yelta
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    I'm sure the HG One is an excellent device, however the lack of an electric motor eliminates it from my list, when I wake up in the AM I'm looking for coffee, not a workout.

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  • ArnhemR
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    Originally posted by farravi View Post
    Alright ArnhemR or should I say Armegeddon, yes of course there are many variables that effect the perfect extraction but we can only do our best to eliminate the ones we can and using a intuitive and robust grinder like Mythos 1 is a very good start indeed.
    As Talk_Coffee pointed out, and I waffled in support, there are a lot of other factors - most of which are at least as important as how good a grinder you get, the best grinder in the world in the wrong hands will still make awful coffee. Its not about eliminating the variables, its about controlling them - if you eliminate roasting you aint going to make very good coffee!

    Its no good preaching to me about high end grinders, I will bet I have spent more than most on grinders!! I have currently an HG-One which is the best grinder I have ever used in terms of outcome in the cup, a Pharos, LIDO's and a Hausgrind by Knock. I have also owned a couple of K10's a big old Bezzera, a couple of different Roburs and others I have happily forgotten!

    I am sure the Mythos 1 is a good grinder, and hopefully you are busy pulling god shots with the coffee you grind in it!

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  • Yelta
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    Thanks Falafel, correction noted and attended to.

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  • farravi
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    Yelta, thank you, I do try.

    P.S. I think you mean Falafel

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  • Yelta
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    Originally posted by farravi View Post
    Alright ArnhemR or should I say Armegeddon, yes of course there are many variables that effect the perfect extraction but we can only do our best to eliminate the ones we can and using a intuitive and robust grinder like Mythos 1 is a very good start indeed.
    Very enlightening second post Farravi, or should I say Falafel.
    Last edited by Yelta; 26 April 2016, 07:24 PM.

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  • farravi
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    Alright ArnhemR or should I say Armegeddon, yes of course there are many variables that effect the perfect extraction but we can only do our best to eliminate the ones we can and using a intuitive and robust grinder like Mythos 1 is a very good start indeed.

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  • ArnhemR
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    Originally posted by Talk_Coffee View Post
    G'day Marxy,

    I think there is probably merit in Matt's ideas on this one,
    The really big idea in Matt's paper as discovered by their research, was that 20 deg C was a critical temperature for the beans, so its not about volume and heat generated by the grinder as previously thought, just ambient temperature beans in many environments will be greatly affected in terms of particle size (fines).

    For the home user simply keeping your beans in the fridge may well give you much more consistent results and improved outcome in the cup.

    While a lot of this research is in the realm of complete nerds, the understandings that spring from such studies do filter down and inform the less nerdy amongst us.

    I think there is a certain point with grinders that makes a big difference, but from there the rule of diminishing returns applies.

    But there are a lot of other factors as you point out, well roasted, fresh coffee, a consistent operator who understands the relationship between dose, yield and time - and knows how to 'surf' them to tune in a roast to suit their palate. No amount of money will buy you great coffee, consistently if you dont understand the process and how to fine tune it - you will just get crap coffee made on very expensive equipment, and the world is full of cafes that do that already!!

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  • farravi
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    I have the Mythos 1 for home use and before that I had the Mahlkonig Vario, what a difference, can't fault the Mythos, she is a beautiful piece of technology paired up with my Rancilio Silvia v3.

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  • Gavisconi007
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    Damn- that was even more entertaining than the weevils.....

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  • Yelta
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    A contrarian view will always provoke an interesting response.

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