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  • #16
    Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

    Having re-read my post Mr Macchiato I might have been able to put that a bit better to fend off those of us with a wandering mind....

    ...The Rancilio Rocky on my kitchen bench is the item that is heavy to lift, depsite being on the smaller side of things.


    I would take a stab at 20 years or so, but I have not looked at the motor etc...just guessing cause of the weight.

    cHEERS

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    • #17
      Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

      ...why cant I stop laughing along with Mr Macchiato - it must be late.

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      • #18
        Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

        Originally posted by tempestv8 link=1182252486/0#7 date=1182309002
        I was also struggling with that question for a while, once I worked out that the bigger grinders like a Mazzer Mini or Macap were simply too big for the kitchen.
        My Macap takes offence and reckons your kitchen is just too small. :P

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        • #19
          Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

          Its not the size of the package, but how it grinds.

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          • #20
            Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

            Okay

            Here is my two bobs worth

            I own an Iberital Challenge.

            I have watched a Rocky grind a dose *twice*

            My Iberital does just fine for me - yes it takes a bit of fiddling dialling it in - so does a rocky. Once it is dialled in, all I need to do is turn the adjustment knob roughly a quarter turn or so every few days to compensate for the beans ageing.

            At my stage of being a coffee conniseuere *spelling?* (bog standard beginner), I think that the Iberital will be just fine for the time being.

            For me.

            I am noticing the limitations of the "stepless" adjustment already - I am trying different beans on an almost weekly basis and find that the setting for one bean is somewhat different to that of another. What this means is that I use up more beans (up to half a kilo) to get the grind rigt for that bean. To return to the grind setting for a bean I had previously tried is a matter of trial and error because of the stepless adjustment. There are no set numbers for each "fineness" setting.

            For a Rocky it is a matter of 15 for Indian Tiger Mountain or 23 for Brazillian Monte Allegro (made up numbers!) . Very simplistic example but quite representative.

            The limitation for the Rocky is that the difference between each setting , eg: setting 6 and setting 7, may be too much to gain the best result from the bean where the Iberital provides infinite adjustment.

            In my opinion, the Iberital seems to be most suited to someone who sticks to a single bean or blend, without much variation, and adjustment is made as the bean ages.

            The Iberital seems quite well made and would retain good resale value as would the Rocky.

            I suppose, if it all comes down to price only, I personally would choose the cheaper unit and in the future, upgrade to a better unit using the benefit of experience.

            Hope this is not too confusing for you

            cheers

            jeff

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            • #21
              Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

              Originally posted by ozscott link=1182252486/15#15 date=1182340241
              I would take a stab at 20 years or so, but I have not looked at the motor etc...just guessing cause of the weight.
              Just so happens as a result of having an electrical engineering background, that I am quite familiar with what goes into making a quality piece of electrically powered hardware and in the case of a Rocky and any similarly well designed and manufactured grinder, a 30 year lifespan is well within the bounds of probability.

              Naturally, the Burr Plates will need replacing every 400-500Kg of coffee put through it but at our usage rate of approx 1.5Kg beans per month, that works out to be about 25 years on one set of burr-plates, give or take so theres still a lot of life left in the young guy yet .

              Mal.

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              • #22
                Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                How boring having the same grinder and espresso machine for 30 years. Even if one can write endlessly in forums about how ones grinder is a commercial spec machine that grinds no better then a $250-$300 grinder, having a 20-30 year old machine is not very satisfying. Maybe collecting them in the basement is OK but to use it, look at it for 30 years is not my cup of tea......mmmm.... coffee, I meant. I doubt, most would wear out a Challenge grinder for a very long time and if it is worn out after only 10 years then it doesnt matter anyway as by then there are newer ones on the market for even cheaper then you bought the first one.

                I am looking at buying a MM grinder as well but not so that I can own it for 30 years and pass it down to my grandchildren and because it grinds better then a Challenge, but rather because it looks cool, does a good job, and I want one. Honestly, who cares about it lasting 30 years? One of those expensive grinders could cost $1,000 while an Iberital Challenge I got for $256. I could buy 4 Challenge grinders for the price of one expensive MM. I dont think that the MM will last more then 4 times longer. But who cares anyway? If I want an MM, I will get one weather it lasts longer or not.

                Why is it important for a grinder to be so heavy that you can barely lift it to wipe the bench? Why is it good that it is so tough that you use up your whole drill set to get through it? How many of us would even consider drilling one?
                Who cares about the noise a grinder makes? It is a coffee grinder. It supposed to make noise. You people are getting soft (or old). Even a Rocky will wake up a baby from its sleep.

                The only things that are important in a grinder are that it has to grind consistently, it can be adjusted in small increments. and it should last a bit (10 years perhaps). The rest are just objective preferences that people just argue/debate about so that they can justify their purchase decisions most of the time.

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                • #23
                  Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                  Each to his own mate,

                  Once Ive got the Roller parked in the garage Im saving up for a slightly used Bugatti Veyron, doubt Ill ever get bored with the Rolls though,

                  Mal.

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                  • #24
                    Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                    Monti - you forget that some of us either dont want to or cannot simply drop a Gorilla for a COFFEE grinder. And if you can get longevity out of such a good grinder why not.

                    Cheers

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                    • #25
                      Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                      I didnt forget, ozscott, that is why I said that an Iberital Challenge grinds just as good at quarter of the price of a $1,000 MM.

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                      • #26
                        Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                        Originally posted by Mal link=1182252486/15#22 date=1182439140
                        Each to his own mate,

                        Once Ive got the Roller parked in the garage Im saving up for a slightly used Bugatti Veyron, doubt Ill ever get bored with the Rolls though,

                        Mal.
                        Once you have that much money, Mal, who cares how much crap you buy and collect? Your money, you spend it however you like, just dont tell people that you bought the Roller because it performs well and it lasts long.

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                        • #27
                          Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                          Funnily enough if your into 6.5 off litres and a ride like a pillow you can pick up a 10 year old Roller about as cheap as a 2 year old ex-taxi.

                          Cheers

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                          • #28
                            Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                            Well I was fortunately in the position of being able to afford my Macap and I will never have to buy another grinder.
                            It looks good.
                            Its quiet.
                            It grinds to a consistent standard.
                            In other words its all most might want in a grinder.

                            Monti if you are the type that likes to replace your shiny new toys more often than those like Mal and myself then please dont write with such a condescending tone.
                            Be more considerate of others and their values.

                            To say we should put them in a collection in the basement just to look at rather than use them was a bit inflammatory.
                            Many here purchase equipment that is old to start with.

                            I found your post quite insulting.

                            As Mal said, "Each to their own".

                            Do please show some consideration.
                            I respect your right to your beliefs, please respect those of others.

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                            • #29
                              Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                              Ill fly over for a ride in the Veyron if you pay for the petrol W16, quad turbo, F1 oil sump technology....400km/h plus top speed and 0 to 100km/h in 2.5 seconds.....ohh baby :P

                              hahaha...seriously...I doubt anyone here has a spare 2 million dollars in their bank accounts

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                              • #30
                                Re: Is Rocky worth the extra $100 over the Iberita

                                ......well said TG.

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