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    Hi Group, I'm looking at purchasing a home professional espresso machine, the ECM T IV Profi, but remain undecided on the choice of grinder.

    It is only me that drinks coffee at home, hence both machines will be doing very little work, approximately 2 to 3 shots per day, sometimes 4. Important points in a grinder for me is not speed of grind or grind volume ability, but more so he quality of grind, on-demand grind, particle distribution and separation, and in particular grind retention or ease to vacate the blades and spout of coffee grinds after each grind to prevent wastage and/or retained grinds from stalling.

    My grinder budget shouldn't exceed the $650 mark, and I have shortlisted the choices to a Macap M2M and a Quamar Q50S push. I've read a few reviews on both grinders, albeit no direct comparisons, and in general the users seem to be quite happy with the performance of either machine. If anyone can compare both machines and provide feedback it would be much appreciated. Alternatively you can suggest a different grinder you know to be superior.

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    Originally posted by Javi View Post
    Hi Group, I'm looking at purchasing a home professional espresso machine, the ECM T IV Profi, but remain undecided on the choice of grinder.

    It is only me that drinks coffee at home, hence both machines will be doing very little work, approximately 2 to 3 shots per day, sometimes 4. Important points in a grinder for me is not speed of grind or grind volume ability, but more so he quality of grind, on-demand grind, particle distribution and separation, and in particular grind retention or ease to vacate the blades and spout of coffee grinds after each grind to prevent wastage and/or retained grinds from stalling.

    My grinder budget shouldn't exceed the $650 mark, and I have shortlisted the choices to a Macap M2M and a Quamar Q50S push. I've read a few reviews on both grinders, albeit no direct comparisons, and in general the users seem to be quite happy with the performance of either machine. If anyone can compare both machines and provide feedback it would be much appreciated. Alternatively you can suggest a different grinder you know to be superior.
    Hey Javi!

    Beautiful machine you have there - I have the ECM T IV Profi as well in the office but I've paired it with a Vario grinder.
    I know that it's above the $650 mark but it's the perfect machine for exactly what you want from what you're describing.

    However, if I had to choose between the Q50S and the M2M - in which I actually have changed blades on and used personally - I'd go the M2M because it has a smaller bay (obviously because of it having smaller smaller blades..) but it's also slightly shallower which helps you clear it out more efficiently every time you do a grind purge (so less wastage)

    I'd go the extra step and get the Vario tbh

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    • #3
      If it is at all remotely possible, I would highly recommend that you make an appointment with one of our Site Sponsors and check out grinders within your budget range personally. Only way to be sure you end up with what suits your requirements as closely as possible...

      Mal.
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      Before committing to a grinder like the Mahlkonig Vario, I'd recommend doing a reasonable amount of research here and elsewhere. Though there may be a number of satisfied owners, there are also quite a number of dissatisfied owners with machines that suffered longevity issues...
      Last edited by Dimal; 29 November 2016, 11:34 PM.

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      • #4
        Which Grinder should I Purchase - M2M or Q50S

        Originally posted by Dimal View Post
        If it is at all remotely possible, I would highly recommend that you make an appointment with one of our Site Sponsors and check out grinders within your budget range personally. Only way to be sure you end up with what suits your requirements as closely as possible...

        Mal.
        P.S.
        Before committing to a grinder like the Mahlkonig Vario, I'd recommend doing a reasonable amount of research here and elsewhere. Though there may be a number of satisfied owners, there are also quite a number of dissatisfied owners with machines that suffered longevity issues...
        +1 absolutely
        The Mahlkonig Vario - as much as I do like it - ain't the most robust grinder on the market and is quite a delicate grinder internally, even if they added more stainless steel to the externals...

        Bur like everything, proper use/care and maintenance will help prolong the life of your equipment (unless it's a manufacturers fault)

        Best to see, touch and feel for yourself
        Last edited by GunBarista; 30 November 2016, 08:38 AM.

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        • #5
          I know its not on your short list but FWIW if I was buying a grinder for home use at the price range you are talking about, I would be strongly leaning toward the Baratza Sette, you can pre-order the 'W' which automatically weighs your grinds for your budget.

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          • #6
            The sette is currently untested as far as longevity goes. Do you have someone who can help you out in Sydney? http://coffeesnobs.com.au/coffee-har...tml#post594670

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            • #7
              Originally posted by magnafunk View Post
              The sette is currently untested as far as longevity goes.
              Yes, its new. many coffee snobs seem to obsess about this and consequently purchase scaled down commercial 'tanks' for home use. I'm not immune, I have a Macap m4, definitely overkill for my usage. The OP only make 2-4 shots per day and Barratza is not exactly new to the grinder business. Over time they have evolved and improved their designs, I don't think there's much to worry about.

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              • #8
                I'm actually very interested in the sette as well, but would like to see how it's looking in a year before recommending it. I have used a baratza preciso and the amount of plastic was disturbing,the person who gave it to me was from a 2 coffee a day household and she told me she had broken 3 upper burr holders, and an adjustment ring. Add to that the gearbox is full of plastic and I'm quietly cautious about how well their latest offering will last. The blessing is if you're handy, they are very easy to take apart.

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                • #9
                  for what its worth we have just taken delivery of our first order of the new Eureka ATOM grinders.

                  A step above the Macap M4D and ticks A LOT of boxes in my opinion

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by magnafunk View Post
                    I'm actually very interested in the sette as well, but would like to see how it's looking in a year before recommending it. I have used a baratza preciso and the amount of plastic was disturbing,the person who gave it to me was from a 2 coffee a day household and she told me she had broken 3 upper burr holders, and an adjustment ring. Add to that the gearbox is full of plastic and I'm quietly cautious about how well their latest offering will last. The blessing is if you're handy, they are very easy to take apart.
                    I know from personal and first hand customer experience on the Baratza that durability is an issue. The plastic adjustment ring seems a constant failure point along with some of the other plastic components. The basic design of the grinder is very sound though

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                    • #11
                      I have nothing but bad experience with Baratza. The first time I got my Preciso brand new, it wouldn't grind anything below 5. The moment I turn it would just turn off.
                      After exchanging a new one, it won't grind any finer than 2-3 as it would get stuck and stop feeding beans. Just after 1 year of using, the plastic ring over the burr grinder cracked. I'm thinking of just selling mine off to buy another grinder.
                      Stay away from Baratza.

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                      • #12
                        The Q50P Im using is going well over the first month or so now.

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                        • #13
                          I bought a m2m very recently and I am very happy with the purchase. If you read the reviews it is tried and tested so sure that you will not be disappointed and will also keep a couple of dollars in your pocket.

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                          • #14
                            I'm considering these 2 grinders as well. Leaving out other competitors like the baratza's, in the opinion of those that have used both (thinking of you Paul) what are you getting for the extra $150 or so for the Q50P over the M2M? Is it faster? Quieter? I don't think anyone is questioning the quality, consistency or durability of the M2M as it's a tried and true performer at a great price, but what advantages do you get when paying more for the Q50, given it's newer and longevity isn't as well established as yet?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MrPug View Post
                              I'm considering these 2 grinders as well. Leaving out other competitors like the baratza's, in the opinion of those that have used both (thinking of you Paul) what are you getting for the extra $150 or so for the Q50P over the M2M? Is it faster? Quieter? I don't think anyone is questioning the quality, consistency or durability of the M2M as it's a tried and true performer at a great price, but what advantages do you get when paying more for the Q50, given it's newer and longevity isn't as well established as yet?
                              I think the Q50 is a much better grinder. Very solid and great performance for the price.

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