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  • Rancillio Rocky vs. Macap M2M vs. something else below 500$

    Both are flat burr grinders, both use a messy design (like my current Sunbeam EM440), both are stepped and both are "stupid" (nothing "smart" like Breville BCG820BSS Smart Grinder Pro), both cost about the same.

    And yet here I only read "get m2m" and I wonder why exactly, can anyone explain a bit? For example, which one is messier (especially compared to EM440)? What is wrong with the Rocky?

    Have I missed anything below 500$?

    I need something to replace EM440 to work with Gaggia Classic, double shot twice a day so I believe I do not need a doser as I need to grind straight to the portafilter, right?

    EM440 just does not adjust anymore - it either grinds coarse or gets stuck very easily :-/

    Thanks!

  • #2
    That web pages says straight away: "The Macap M2M is an entry level prosumer grinder". Not "commercial" ;-)

    I have not seen complains about Rocky not being reliable, really.

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    • #3
      Worth considering the Baratza Sette 270 or the Eureka Mignon E. If you ask site sponsor nicely they may just squeeze it in under the $500.

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      • #4
        With regard to the Rocky, I found the steps a little large for my liking. It seemed to go from too coarse to too fine in one click sometimes.
        I have not had any such issues with the Macap M5 which we moved up to. The M5 now comes as a stepless grinder, but when we got it it was still a stepped grinder.
        The steps on our M5 are quite small and whilst the M5 is not in the same price bracket as the M2M, I would think the steps would be similarly small.

        Brett.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by matth3wh View Post
          Worth considering the Baratza Sette 270 or the Eureka Mignon E. If you ask site sponsor nicely they may just squeeze it in under the $500.
          Heh. The shortlist then 425$ for M2M today and 480$ for sette270 but it is "preorder" mid-march. Flat burr vs. conical burr. Hm.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by aik View Post
            That web pages says straight away: "The Macap M2M is an entry level prosumer grinder". Not "commercial" ;-)

            I have not seen complains about Rocky not being reliable, really.

            Yes, prosumer is a better description (obviously it is not a cafe grinder....none of these are). The M2M is great bang for buck. The grind quality is comparable to my M4D. It's a little slower....not an issue for most. The steps are very 'small', so not a problem with fine adjustments (you may alter dose a smidgen). And it has a very small footprint. $425 for an M2M seems pretty fair to me.

            Full disclosure: I own a Compak K3, M2M and M4D. Have tried a Eureka Mignon (similar grind quality). No experience with Baratzas.

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            • #7
              K3 push is in your budget or a deal on a k3 touch

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              • #8
                Ordered M2M for 400$ (ebay offers 10% now). Thanks everybody.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
                  Yes, prosumer is a better description (obviously it is not a cafe grinder....none of these are). The M2M is great bang for buck. The grind quality is comparable to my M4D. It's a little slower....not an issue for most. The steps are very 'small', so not a problem with fine adjustments (you may alter dose a smidgen). And it has a very small footprint. $425 for an M2M seems pretty fair to me.

                  Full disclosure: I own a Compak K3, M2M and M4D. Have tried a Eureka Mignon (similar grind quality). No experience with Baratzas.
                  How loud is the m4d compared to the k3?

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                  • #10
                    Obviously too late now but,....
                    Anyone feeling constrained by their budget for a quality grinder, should get over their prejudice and look at pre owned (used) grinders. !
                    There is some incredible bargains on grinders from snobs who like to upgrade frequently.
                    a quality grinder can stand many years of domestic or cafe use with few issues beyond needing a fresh set of burrs.

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                    • #11
                      Interesting picture for this thread in tapatalk at the moment 😄

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by trentski View Post
                        Interesting picture for this thread in tapatalk at the moment [emoji1]
                        Ahh it's not just mine then

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                        • #13
                          Yes. Referring to a non-existent member.

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                          • #14
                            THere is also the Lelit grinder at that price point, with a stepless adjustment. It's a bit noisy though, and feels a little unfinished compared to the Rocky.
                            And the machine that i used choked at some point, potentiall due to excess moisture in the air...

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                            • #15
                              Having used a refurbished Commercial grinder (can fit within the budget, if the right deal comes along), it's hard to move back to some of the "Pro-sumer" grinders. The build quality, speed, can vary quite significantly.
                              Good luck with the journey, what ever you choose, it will be a great choice. And if not, you just move on to something else. At the very least, you will have learnt it for yourself.

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