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  • #16
    Originally posted by Michael79SB View Post
    Have you looked at the Mazzer mini? Its in your price range brand new, and is a really high end domestic grinder.
    A good grinder but poor value for money. Glacially slow and much better options available now. 10 years ago it was a top 3 in its category.

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    • #17
      Hello Michael79SB. I've discounted the mini-e as I believe there are better grinders around for the price. A second hand Kony would be much more my style
      Yes, I agree trentski
      I ordered an OE Lido 3 yesterday because I wanted to see if I could taste the difference between flat and conical ... and I wanted a portable grinder anyway. :-)

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      • #18
        Hi RPbeans. Good that you've got yourself a Lido to keep yourself going. Chances are most of us would be fairly happy with any of the espresso grinders at around that $1k price point mentioned. Though you might have some feature preferences to lead you one way of the other. For me it was quiet, hands free coffee grinding with the occasional switch to non espresso brew. Came across an interesting comparison article of some of the grinders mentioned above. Hope that helps a little. Certainly plenty of great second hand grinders for sale via CS if you don't want to go new. Good luck in your hunt.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by RPbeans View Post
          Oh, and this Compak dosing funnel grabbed my attention https://youtu.be/ltNpZmA8_5g
          Cool idea for single dosing - but it's a bit of a waste of a timed dose grinder!

          I think the biggest advantage of a grind by time (or weight) grinder is the ability to have more than a single dose in the hopper, so the burrs are always weighted. I do find with my V-Titan the last shot of a batch of beans is quite erratic if I don't add the next bag of beans before grinding - seems to run faster than previous shots with the same grind setting, and channel more.

          tl;dr: single dosing is like so 2016. [emoji6]

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          • #20
            I triple dose direct from the grinder to the basket. I store my beans in a conveient container that sits on top of the grinder.

            Works well for me.

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            • #21
              Matt3wh, thanks for that link. I'm still considering the Atam so keen to hear how you go over time as the grinder and you get to know each other.
              Magic Matt, had to laugh. So 2016 eh! Hahaha. I take your point about having beans in the hopper to 'push' beans down the grinding shoot. Like Trentski, single dosing works for me. I like to keep my beans sealed and in a dark place when not being ground.
              The Lido 3 has been an interesting experience so far. It took a bit of dialing in. I ended up at minus 1 i.e. one step back from the factory setting. There is almost no retention - about 0.2 or 0.3 at worse. The only negative so far is clumpy grinds which also makes getting the grinds into the basket a bit of work. Otherwise, its a great product. And its a bit of a workout so no need for those pesky gym memberships

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              • #22
                It's not manual grinding that gave you muscles like that, it's the posing in front of the mirror.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by RPbeans View Post
                  Matt3wh, thanks for that link. I'm still considering the Atam so keen to hear how you go over time as the grinder and you get to know each other.
                  Magic Matt, had to laugh. So 2016 eh! Hahaha. I take your point about having beans in the hopper to 'push' beans down the grinding shoot. Like Trentski, single dosing works for me. I like to keep my beans sealed and in a dark place when not being ground.
                  The Lido 3 has been an interesting experience so far. It took a bit of dialing in. I ended up at minus 1 i.e. one step back from the factory setting. There is almost no retention - about 0.2 or 0.3 at worse. The only negative so far is clumpy grinds which also makes getting the grinds into the basket a bit of work. Otherwise, its a great product. And its a bit of a workout so no need for those pesky gym memberships
                  Late to the party with this but wish to share my own experience. Having had many grinders over my time, each fitting my increasing need to produce a great coffee. At the same time each increasing with the amount i spend on one.... Ive just picked up yesterday a Eureka Zenith 65E and can already speak for it being a great grinder. While purchasing this grinder at Casa Espresso through Antony I also got to look and ask about the Atom. I feel both these grinder although different in ways which suit some and not others you cant go wrong with either of them.

                  Already having had the Zenith just over 24 hours i feel the pour on my shot has become more consistent. Thats not to say the Macap i had before was worse or better because at the end of the day as stated the difference you are going to taste is from the beans you use and somewhat the machine when you are looking at Grinders at this price point. What im meaning at this price point you are going to get a good grinder that grinds good coffee.. I guess the the little things like appearance and ergonomics come into play and depends on people preference. Mind you If had to say what grinder i think you should buy, i would suggest the Eureka Zenith or Atom..

                  Chris

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                  • #24
                    Chris, what did you see as the differences between the Atom and Zenith 65E to you? What swayed you to the Zenith 65E over the Atom?

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                    • #25
                      To be honest they are somewhat different in appearance having seen them in the flesh. I must say i liked the larger looking Zenith, I guess i wasn't sold on the appearance of the Atom (thats just personal opinion). I reckon at the end of the day i liked the Zenith as it was tad faster when grinding, its overall larger looking appearance but mainly it was some $150 cheaper than the Atom. Mind you i did buy the smaller hopper for it as the larger hopper is Very, very Large lol

                      To be honest i think if i was at home with the Atom now like i am the Zenith i would be just as happy though. Im looking at the Grinder as i type and im happy with he purchase...

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Magic_Matt View Post
                        Cool idea for single dosing - but it's a bit of a waste of a timed dose grinder!

                        I think the biggest advantage of a grind by time (or weight) grinder is the ability to have more than a single dose in the hopper, so the burrs are always weighted. I do find with my V-Titan the last shot of a batch of beans is quite erratic if I don't add the next bag of beans before grinding - seems to run faster than previous shots with the same grind setting, and channel more.

                        tl;dr: single dosing is like so 2016. [emoji6]
                        Ah wow really, that's interesting regarding the last shot being erratic.. I've only ever single dosed using the Rocky, has been fairly consistent, but every now and then it'll inexplicably go bonkers.. wonder if best to consider chucking all/a fair weight of my beans in the hopper with my next upgrade... I can surely just remove the hopper and put the beans back in the one-way valve when I'm done anyways hey.. (that's not an option with the Rocky haha)

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                        • #27
                          Looking to buy a new grinder for home espresso around $1000

                          Originally posted by simonsk8r View Post
                          Ah wow really, that's interesting regarding the last shot being erratic.. I've only ever single dosed using the Rocky, has been fairly consistent, but every now and then it'll inexplicably go bonkers.. wonder if best to consider chucking all/a fair weight of my beans in the hopper with my next upgrade... I can surely just remove the hopper and put the beans back in the one-way valve when I'm done anyways hey.. (that's not an option with the Rocky haha)
                          It's not as much of a problem with flat burrs, especially small flat burrs like in the Rocky. I have the same issue as Matt with my Compak K10 conical, I can't really single dose as the last few grams of beans through the grinder come out a terrible mess. What I do is weigh my dose then add about 5g extra. This obviously stays in the grinder and I purge it the next morning. It means I waste a bit more coffee than I did with my other grinders, but still not much and weighing the grounds is a far more accurate way to weigh your dose anyway so that's how I do it.
                          The only large conical burr grinders that do a good job of single dosing would be ones actually designed to work this way I'm guessing - Lido, Pharos, HG-1, Monolith etc.

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                          • #28
                            I've got a ROK grinder, stepping up from a spice whizzer was chalk and cheese (of course - this was stovetop roasting in a saucepan and pulsing the beans in the Krambrook). For the price i reckon the non-electric burr grinders are a fantastic option for home use where only small amount of coffee is consumed daily. Takes about 20 seconds to grind 19 grams, and there's enough leverage on the arm that it's pretty easy to do, the quality of the grind is great (we do pour over and espresso - Gaggia Classic though, nothing fancy) though i've not used an electric grinder to compare. They're relatively quiet too compared to electric. I'd be interested to compare the grind quality with my ROK vs a high end home grinder to see how it stacks up.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                              It's not as much of a problem with flat burrs, especially small flat burrs like in the Rocky. I have the same issue as Matt with my Compak K10 conical, I can't really single dose as the last few grams of beans through the grinder come out a terrible mess. What I do is weigh my dose then add about 5g extra. This obviously stays in the grinder and I purge it the next morning. It means I waste a bit more coffee than I did with my other grinders, but still not much and weighing the grounds is a far more accurate way to weigh your dose anyway so that's how I do it.
                              The only large conical burr grinders that do a good job of single dosing would be ones actually designed to work this way I'm guessing - Lido, Pharos, HG-1, Monolith etc.
                              Ahhhh ok so it's more of a conical grinder thing.. but that's a great idea anyways regarding chucking in the extra 5g if it needs to be a bit weighted! Clever!

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by simonsk8r View Post
                                Ahhhh ok so it's more of a conical grinder thing.. but that's a great idea anyways regarding chucking in the extra 5g if it needs to be a bit weighted! Clever!
                                I don't know about that - certainly noticeable on my ECM V-Titan. Probably moreso than the Kony-E if I'm honest.

                                Adding extra beans works, but it's not really single-dosing anymore... May as well just run a hopper!

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