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  • #76
    The S64, T64, and V-titan 64 have essentially identical mechanics. The S64 has a portafilter rest not a holder, so you can't go hands free while it grinds, it also has a chute rather than the funnel the other two have. The T64 has buttons on the top of the grinder, whereas the other two have a portafilter button. The V-titan is a bit bigger than the other two. With these three grinders it really comes down to which of these features you want as they are essentially the same inside.

    The Atom is quiet, like really quiet, for a grinder. Not silent by any means, but if most grinders are like someone with noisy vacuum right next to you, the Atom is like someone vacuuming in the next room with the door shut. You are definitely aware it's happening but it's not as overpowering. Also both the Atom and Zenith use a setup which means you won't have to dial the grind in again if you remove the top burr for cleaning, as it will be right where you left it. Most other grinders you have to wind through their settings until the top comes off, and then wind it back down again and hope you got it in the same place. The Zenith has an adjustable chute so you can aim it wherever you like (likely to make sure it is in the middle of your portafilter).

    Atom 60mm burrs
    S64, T64, V-titan 64mm burrs
    Zenith 65mm burrs

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    • #77
      OK a few things,
      1/ i have two (used) grinders in the kitchen at teh moment, one flat burr (Compak K3) and one conical (Iberital) and will be doing the Flat vs Conical test this week.
      2/ i have reusable bags with one way valves and have a hand held vacuum device to purge air. works for me!

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      • #78
        Originally posted by madaxle View Post
        i see a lot of posts around the Profitec T64 but not much about the EMC S-64. Is there much difference in these two? Or is it that the Profitec is newer that people just prefer this one.

        Looking to get a ECM Synchonika and debating between these two grinders, the Eureka Atom, Zenthe 65E or should i go the big dog ECM titan 64

        Until recently the ECM/Profitec grinders were ANFIM based. Maybe this has changed?

        The idea of having a matching Machine and grinder brand is nice, however IMO I would look at one of the specialist grinder manufactures when choosing your grinder.

        Synkronika is a fantastic machine, it deserves the best grinder within your budget

        Cheers
        Antony
        CASA ESPRESSO
        www.casaespresso.com.au

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        • #79
          I purchased the ECM S-64, then changed my mind and spent the extra for a V-Titan.

          My reasons were:

          1. Not a fan of the "nose" chute on the S-64; no access to the burr chamber for sweeping, cleaning or to remove/modify the anti-static screen.
          2. Didn't much like the plastic grind adjustment gear - on the V-Titan it's polished metal (steel I think). No big deal and I'm sure the plastic is fine.
          3. Prefer a portafilter holder over the rest on the S-64 - just minor personal preference. As it turns out I dose into a metal container to more easily weigh the dose, then use the funnel to re-dose into the portafilter. So while handy, the holder isn't a necessity.
          4. Aesthetics; the S-64 looked kinda dinky next to the Synchronika. The V-Titan is nicely proportioned and the curves balance out the straight lines of the Synchronika nicely. In a tight kitchen this might be a point to the smaller grinders though...
          5. Titanium-coated burrs are a nice extra, but not likely to make much difference in a domestic setting.

          I'd say if you're weighing up these three, the smart money is on the Profitec T-64 or if you have cash to burn go the V-Titan. I don't think the S-64 has much to recommend it other than very closely 'matching' the aesthetics of the ECM machines.

          Like Paul, my understanding is that all three grinders are manufactured in the ECM/Profitec factory in Heidelberg. I've seen similar comments on UK forums about sticking with the established grinder companies, but never really backed up by anything solid...

          You definitely shouldn't feel limited to the ECM/Profitec family to "match" your machine, but ime they are quality grinders that stack up well against the others I've owned (Mazzer, Fiorenzato). I haven't decided yet whether I'll keep the ECM or Kony-E if I downsize to one grinder; for now I'm keeping both [emoji6]

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          • #80
            Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
            The S64, T64, and V-titan 64 have essentially identical mechanics. The S64 has a portafilter rest not a holder, so you can't go hands free while it grinds, it also has a chute rather than the funnel the other two have. The T64 has buttons on the top of the grinder, whereas the other two have a portafilter button. The V-titan is a bit bigger than the other two. With these three grinders it really comes down to which of these features you want as they are essentially the same inside.

            The Atom is quiet, like really quiet, for a grinder. Not silent by any means, but if most grinders are like someone with noisy vacuum right next to you, the Atom is like someone vacuuming in the next room with the door shut. You are definitely aware it's happening but it's not as overpowering. Also both the Atom and Zenith use a setup which means you won't have to dial the grind in again if you remove the top burr for cleaning, as it will be right where you left it. Most other grinders you have to wind through their settings until the top comes off, and then wind it back down again and hope you got it in the same place. The Zenith has an adjustable chute so you can aim it wherever you like (likely to make sure it is in the middle of your portafilter).

            Atom 60mm burrs
            S64, T64, V-titan 64mm burrs
            Zenith 65mm burrs
            Can Confirm I'm extremely happy so far with the Eureka Zenith which I've had for approx 2 weeks. To be honest unlike looking for coffee machines i really hadn't paid much attention to what grinders where available as what i had being the M4D i thought was great for what it was priced at.

            I keep meaning to do a write up and its possibly something i wouldn't normally do. however this grinder being the Eureka Zenith so far has been super easy to use, straight off the bat it changed the way my coffee comes out of the machine i have for the better and I have found also that its very forgiving for those who may not have a set routine when making coffee (like my partner, she just grinds ans little to the point of that will do and hopes for the best).

            For all grinders I have owned I cant honestly say its the most ergonomic grinder, as stated above it has a adjustable chute, which may seem like a gimmick, but actually works really well and the portafilter holder you can trust 100%.

            I believe Antony Still has these at a discounted price as Casa Espresso. In my mind its been well worth the purchase. I could have considered the Olympus for the extra price on top. But for the home setting I dont see it would have been worth it. I looked at the Atom also, but to be honest the appearance and cheaper price sold me on the Zenith in the end.

            Chris

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Casa Espresso View Post
              We sold a Lido 3 on line to a customer in Melbourne on the weekend.

              Wasn't to you was it?

              Cheers

              Antony
              CASA ESPRESSO
              www.casaespresso.com.au
              Sorry Anthony, no it wasn't. I'm in Brisbane

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              • #82
                Originally posted by K_Bean_Coffee
                The Lido 3 is a great choice RP.
                Enjoy the morning exercise
                Cheers
                Paul
                Thanks Paul!

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by RPbeans View Post
                  Sorry Anthony, no it wasn't. I'm in Brisbane
                  Just a coincidence then

                  Cheers

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by SpiceBean View Post
                    Nice work RP,

                    Let us know how the Lido goes!

                    Mike K
                    So far its pretty good Mike. I've dialed it in at minus 1 for the Haze blend I'm currently drinking. The fine adjustment is a bit tricky i.e. I'd like to make a tiny + or - each day but unlocking the locking ring and adjusting a fraction sometimes makes a difference and sometimes not. And the grinds a clumpy making transfer to the portafilter basket a job that requires concentration. These, though, are minor issues and overall I am very happy with the grinder.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by coffeechris View Post
                      Can Confirm I'm extremely happy so far with the Eureka Zenith which I've had for approx 2 weeks. To be honest unlike looking for coffee machines i really hadn't paid much attention to what grinders where available as what i had being the M4D i thought was great for what it was priced at.

                      I keep meaning to do a write up and its possibly something i wouldn't normally do. however this grinder being the Eureka Zenith so far has been super easy to use, straight off the bat it changed the way my coffee comes out of the machine i have for the better and I have found also that its very forgiving for those who may not have a set routine when making coffee (like my partner, she just grinds ans little to the point of that will do and hopes for the best).

                      For all grinders I have owned I cant honestly say its the most ergonomic grinder, as stated above it has a adjustable chute, which may seem like a gimmick, but actually works really well and the portafilter holder you can trust 100%.

                      I believe Antony Still has these at a discounted price as Casa Espresso. In my mind its been well worth the purchase. I could have considered the Olympus for the extra price on top. But for the home setting I dont see it would have been worth it. I looked at the Atom also, but to be honest the appearance and cheaper price sold me on the Zenith in the end.

                      Chris
                      Nice little mini review Chris.

                      In my mind the Zenith is great value for money. We have them on sale here https://www.casaespresso.com.au/grinders/eureka.html, also including FREE delivery Australia wide, there is also the option of a mini hopper which is nice for the home user

                      Cheers

                      Antony
                      CASA ESPRESSO
                      www.casaespresso.com.au

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by Casa Espresso View Post
                        Nice little mini review Chris.

                        In my mind the Zenith is great value for money. We have them on sale here https://www.casaespresso.com.au/grinders/eureka.html, also including FREE delivery Australia wide, there is also the option of a mini hopper which is nice for the home user

                        Cheers

                        Antony
                        CASA ESPRESSO
                        www.casaespresso.com.au
                        whats the height with mini-hopper.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by Casa Espresso View Post
                          Nice little mini review Chris.

                          In my mind the Zenith is great value for money. We have them on sale here https://www.casaespresso.com.au/grinders/eureka.html, also including FREE delivery Australia wide, there is also the option of a mini hopper which is nice for the home user

                          Cheers

                          Antony
                          CASA ESPRESSO
                          www.casaespresso.com.au
                          No probs Antony..

                          I'm always hesitate to do a full on review. Not so much for being wrong or having an opinion, but I find sometimes some simple pros and cons on a item (in this case a grinder) can be beneficial for many. In depth I enjoy reading and glad so many people on here are willing to do such in depth reviews on anything coffee.

                          This thread goes back to something i wrote the last few days stating we are never going to 100% happy with the things we buy and coffee equipment being one of them. That said this grinder I'm 99% sure i will have for at least another year....before something else comes along. That said i am only finding pros to this grinder and i'm yet to find any cons...

                          Chris

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by madaxle View Post
                            whats the height with mini-hopper.
                            46.5cm with the mini hopper

                            Cheers

                            Antony
                            CASA ESPRESSO
                            www.casaespresso.com.au

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                            • #89
                              I want to add something else about the Eureka Zenith which i'm sure goes for all Eureka range with this ability. Having had this now for 3 plus weeks I have to say the ability and ease in which you can change the grind on these are second to none and is is the best I have seen. I also have a Ditting bag grinder which is easy to adjust being step less, but for more than half the price the Eureka is something else. Having had the K3 push and M4D this is a big step up and it still blows me away how easy it is to adjust the grind.

                              Chris

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                              • #90
                                I support ******_Coffee comments. I have a modified hopper on a Kony e. It is a short 50 mm diameter plumbers pipe. It holds about 5 double shots. Originally I put into the pipe beans for one double shot. Now I noticed my work M4D ground better tasting coffee from a partially filled hopper.
                                So I filled up my Kony e plumbers pipe and then struck trouble. The grinds were far to fine. So I reset the grinder until I got 60ml in 30 secs, then made small adjustments and got a really great taste. I simply keep the mini hopper full and grind my one or two double shots a day. Over the days the taste has not diminished.
                                The beans only stay in the hopper for three days but as the hopper is small and a cap is placed on it, it probably is just as good as opening and closing a bag over a week or so.

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