I purchased a Eureka Mignon recently I have a LaPavoni lever machine and this is a great grinder; the things I like about it most is the easy stepless adjustment, consistency of grind and quality of espresso shots and size on the bench.
You may be better off getting a stepped machine if you make different coffee types as dialling in the grind time after time would be a major pita - however for my needs it's perfect as an espresso only grinder with ultimate adjustment ability.
The only negative if you can call it that is it's a bit slow, clumps a bit but personally don't have an issue with this, the twist and tamp sorts it out, I'm only making a couple of shots at a time so I don't need a commercial monster that can spurt them out in 3 seconds. From my research this is about as good as it gets unless you like bells and whistles - I like full control and trust my judgement so haven't bothered with the timer. It does what it needs to do for me that is provide a quality consistent espresso grind.
Aside from the obvious 'consistent high-quality grind', I value:
1. Ease of cleaning/not too much retention of grounds inside the machine - TBD seems ok so far
2. Ease of dialling in a good grind - Excellent
3. Durable/easy to get parts for - I would imagine so
4. Usable (consistent) dose timer - N/A
5. Less mess - Not too bad
6. Quietness would be nice but not essential. - yes pretty quiet actually
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Also agree the issues with the stepped adjustment and being able to dial it in are also exaggerated.
There are so many other variables including grind, tamp, dose and age of beans that that completely offset the "stepped" grind issue.
No reason at all that a "good" steeped grinder cant be dialled iin for most machines.
The only caveat I would add would be with the La Pavoni levas that are very sensitive to grind adjustment.
Cheers
Antony
www.casaespresso.com.au
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Mal, for the price and build quility it's a very good option and the only issue I have in using it was the stepped adjustments. I felt they were a little too large for a machine that needed a very fine grind like a La Pavoni.Originally posted by Dimal View PostNever found any of this to be a problem with my Rocky D/less over many years...
A lot of these so-called issues are very much exaggerated in my opinion.
Mal.
Otherwise I loved mine. Super relaiable workhorse.
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Never found any of this to be a problem with my Rocky D/less over many years...Originally posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View PostThe Rocky is a great little machine considering the price and build quality. However it has pretty high retnetion and isn't quiet by any stretch. I also found (the doserless model) to be rather messy.
The biggest drawback however is the stepped adjustments - which can make getting a good shot harder.
A lot of these so-called issues are very much exaggerated in my opinion.
Mal.
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I’ve had a rocky for around 12 years. It’s slow but otherwise great. V solid.
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I have used my doserless Rocky for many years and have no difficulty with measuring the appropriate dose of bean or catching the grind.
I have a plastic spoon that holds enough beans for one shot. As I normally do a single basket for the Son and a double for me, that's three spoonfulls of bean.
I catch the dose in the plastic food container shown in the photo and then shake it into the portafilter. Easy.
I then create a bit of pressure in the hopper using the lid off another food container (shown) which expels most of the grind from the machine.
When I'm finished grinding, I invert the Rocky and give it a good shake. This is good for the muscles and any grind not previously expelled now comes loose and falls out when I turn the grinder right-side up.
My only reservation about the Rocky is that on the very fine end of the scale- which I need for my double basket - the burrs seem to contact intermittently.
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Never been an issue for me. The grind collar is easy to adjust and is tight whilst grinding. Had mine 3 yes still grinds and looks like brand newOriginally posted by MattAttack View PostI've read some comments online about excessive play in some of the parts of the k3, like the adjustment collar. Is that not your experience?
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Hi MattAttack,
Good point...I don't know anything about how the Rocky is controlled and switched on but if you can switch on the rocky and it stays on, you can find a stand on line, which stands on top of your scales that can hold your portafilter...You will have to do some measuring to make sure everything fits under the spout...Alternatively You can make such stands or the like up...I'm thinking about retro fitting something like that for my grinder...
Cheers.
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I've read some comments online about excessive play in some of the parts of the k3, like the adjustment collar. Is that not your experience?Originally posted by Chrisj1984 View PostK3 push is a great grinder. Trouble free and very simple to use
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K3 push is a great grinder. Trouble free and very simple to use
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I find the trouble with this is retention, my Sunbeam is pretty hopeless in this regard but hopefully my next grinder will perform better.Originally posted by WhatEverBeansNecessary View PostDose only what you need - if you want 16g in the basket, just weight 16g of beans prior.
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Dose only what you need - if you want 16g in the basket, just weight 16g of beans prior.
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One thing putting me off the Rocky is the height of the output spout. On my EM0480 I grind straight into a measuring cup on a mini scale. That way I can cut the grinder when I reach the desired dose. The output on the Rocky looks way too high up to run this system, and the base on the M2M doesn't look flat in the photos. Without a dose timer, how do people grind the right amount with no wastage? Are you just going by eye?
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The Rocky is a great little machine considering the price and build quality. However it has pretty high retnetion and isn't quiet by any stretch. I also found (the doserless model) to be rather messy.
The biggest drawback however is the stepped adjustments - which can make getting a good shot harder. It is possible to do a small mod to make it stepless, but what's the point of buying a new grinder to only mod it straight away?
Parts are super easy to get and they basically haven't changed design (apart from a few small things) forever.
Your other options sound better IMO but if you are planning a trip into sydney in the next few months stop by one of the site sponsors - not sure if there are any in Canberra, they will be all too happy to give you a demo.
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