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    Hey everyone,

    I'm looking at getting a second grinder for doing some more pour over at home.

    I guess my priorities are:
    $300-500
    Electric
    0 retention if possible
    Not too big

    The three grinders i've eyed off are:

    Breville Smart Grinder Pro
    https://www.betta.com.au/breville-bc...der-pro-414185

    Rancilio Rocky Doserless
    https://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/...less-pre-loved

    Baratza Sette 270
    https://alternativebrewing.com.au/pr...tza-sette-270/

    I've never used these grinders except for the older Breville before this new pro model. I didn't mind it, for the price it was pretty damned good.

    Any recommendations?

    Cheers

    Edit:

    How's the Compk K3 go?

  • #2
    Originally posted by MitchH View Post
    Hey everyone,

    I'm looking at getting a second grinder for doing some more pour over at home.

    I guess my priorities are:
    $300-500
    Electric
    0 retention if possible
    Not too big

    The three grinders i've eyed off are:

    Breville Smart Grinder Pro
    https://www.betta.com.au/breville-bc...der-pro-414185

    Rancilio Rocky Doserless
    https://www.jetblackespresso.com.au/...less-pre-loved

    Baratza Sette 270
    https://alternativebrewing.com.au/pr...tza-sette-270/

    I've never used these grinders except for the older Breville before this new pro model. I didn't mind it, for the price it was pretty damned good.

    Any recommendations?

    Cheers

    Edit:

    How's the Compk K3 go?
    Fair enough that you've stated you want it to be electric, but.....why? You'll get so much more bang for your buck with a good hand-grinder, and the good ones aren't difficult to use. For some reason I own 3 electric grinders (including a K3), but I use my Lido for pourover duties.
    Last edited by Barry O'Speedwagon; 31 May 2018, 10:19 PM.

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    • #3
      would recommend getting a really good hand grinder over any of those. lido 2/3 or commandante. it takes very little time and effort to hand grind for pour-over.

      other than that, i've heard the sette is decent for pour-over.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by woodhouse View Post
        would recommend getting a really good hand grinder over any of those. lido 2/3 or commandante. it takes very little time and effort to hand grind for pour-over.

        other than that, i've heard the sette is decent for pour-over.
        Originally posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
        Fair enough that you've stated you want it to be electric, but.....why? You'll get so much more bang for your buck with a good hand-grinder, and the good ones aren't difficult to use. For some reason I own 3 electric grinders (including a K3), but I use my Lido for pourover duties.

        Thanks for the replys

        I already have a Hario Skerton and have found the grounds variance in particle size to be pretty terrible (it does the job when camping for aeropress). I just assumed all hand grinders are like that. I didn't know there was a hand grinder like the Commandante or Lido.

        I'll check out some reviews!

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        • #5
          Hi MitchH
          ive got a Lido E (Lido 3 with finer adjustment for espresso hense the E) and really like it, using it daily for 2-3 20g dose espresso. Not a job for my wife but not that hard either. For pour over it would be super easy and quick.

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          • #6
            I’m in a somewhat similar boat, but opposite (I guess). I use a Smart Grinder currently for espresso, but from time to time have to grind larger amounts for plunger for family members. Every time I do this it throws my espresso grind calibration substantially out and it takes many profanities and about 10 shots before it comes good again. Thus I’m considering a manual for my daily espresso and reserving the Smart Grinder for the coarse duties

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            • #7
              from time to time have to grind larger amounts for plunger

              When you say larger amounts, how much do you mean? Domestic grinders are designed to grind small amounts and will generate a bit of heat when grinding larger amounts. This is why your Smart grinder goes out of whack. If you need to continue to grind larger amounts, you will need to buy a heavier duty grinder and confine the Breville to espresso duties.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Hipsi View Post
                I’m in a somewhat similar boat, but opposite (I guess). I use a Smart Grinder currently for espresso, but from time to time have to grind larger amounts for plunger for family members. Every time I do this it throws my espresso grind calibration substantially out and it takes many profanities and about 10 shots before it comes good again. Thus I’m considering a manual for my daily espresso and reserving the Smart Grinder for the coarse duties
                I sold my Smart Grinder for this exact reason. It was also a lot more susceptible to changes in the air and the burrs heated up pretty drastically and fast.

                I love my Mazzer Mini E, it's SO much better.
                Last edited by MitchH; 1 June 2018, 02:56 PM.

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                • #9
                  Comandante and several cans of spinach. :wink:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mb21 View Post
                    Hi MitchH
                    ive got a Lido E (Lido 3 with finer adjustment for espresso hense the E) and really like it, using it daily for 2-3 20g dose espresso. Not a job for my wife but not that hard either. For pour over it would be super easy and quick.
                    Cheers, i was wondering what the E was about.

                    The Lido 2 looks nicer than the 3 i think from the pics online but the burrs are different between the two. I'll never use the Lido for espresso so i guess the 2 is my pick?

                    I also have had someone offer up a used Baratza Vario for $200 dollarydoos. That sounds like too good to pass :P

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                    • #11
                      Lido 2 has a more agressive burr set then Lido 3. So Lido 2 verses lido 3 is harder to turn but less revolutions needed to grind dose. May not be a big factor if only using for pourer due to coarser grind size. Do you travel much? a hand grinder may be nice if you do as can still take it away and make pour over etc

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                      • #12
                        If you want to maximize the flavour potential then you can’t go past the Lido. It’s amazing how much difference the slightly bigger burrs make. My recommendations would be (in this order):

                        1. Lido 3
                        2. Hiku
                        3. Baratza Sette 270

                        Brevilles and other Baratzas do ok, but why just make do with average when you don’t need to? Definitely avoid the likes of the Rocky and K3 as they’re really designed for espresso.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Mb21 View Post
                          Lido 2 has a more agressive burr set then Lido 3. So Lido 2 verses lido 3 is harder to turn but less revolutions needed to grind dose. May not be a big factor if only using for pourer due to coarser grind size. Do you travel much? a hand grinder may be nice if you do as can still take it away and make pour over etc

                          Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
                          If you want to maximize the flavour potential then you can’t go past the Lido. It’s amazing how much difference the slightly bigger burrs make. My recommendations would be (in this order):

                          1. Lido 3
                          2. Hiku
                          3. Baratza Sette 270

                          Brevilles and other Baratzas do ok, but why just make do with average when you don’t need to? Definitely avoid the likes of the Rocky and K3 as they’re really designed for espresso.
                          Cheers

                          Travel isn't a consideration

                          So i'm pretty much tossing up between the Lido ($300) and a second hand Vario with steel burrs ($200).

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by MitchH View Post
                            Cheers

                            Travel isn't a consideration

                            So i'm pretty much tossing up between the Lido ($300) and a second hand Vario with steel burrs ($200).
                            Of those two the Vario will admittedly be slightly easier to use, but the Lido will give you vastly superior results in the cup. If you’re only grinding a standard sort of amount for a single pour over each time (15-20g or so) then I’d recommend the Lido as you’ll punch this through in no time.

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                            • #15
                              Lido all the way. Will last a lifetime and is portable.

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