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  • #16
    Originally posted by LeroyC View Post
    Of those two the Vario will admittedly be slightly easier to use, but the Lido will give you vastly superior results in the cup. If you’re only grinding a standard sort of amount for a single pour over each time (15-20g or so) then I’d recommend the Lido as you’ll punch this through in no time.

    Originally posted by Lukemc View Post
    Lido all the way. Will last a lifetime and is portable.

    Cheers guys

    So you've all changed my mind on hand grinders, something i never thought would happen lol.

    The only issue i have about the Lido is it looks ugly as hell. The grinder is going to be on display on a shelf so i guess i'm looking at the Comandante also now.

    They are pretty much the same price, is the performance the same? It's a lot harder to find a good review on particle consistency for the Comandante than the Lido

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    • #17
      Originally posted by MitchH View Post
      Cheers

      Travel isn't a consideration

      So i'm pretty much tossing up between the Lido ($300) and a second hand Vario with steel burrs ($200).
      Having three Mahlkonig Varios, one now fitted with the optional steel burrs, I would offer the following.

      If the Vario is a Mahlkonig gen2* or either gen3 it will outperform the Sette on coarser grinds by miles - other than an HG1, I suspect it will also outperform all hand grinders I know (about 30 or so different ones over the years). FWIW, I have not seen such an even spread at drip / plunger grinds this side of mega expensive industrial grinders. Mind you, it'll be hopeless on espresso...

      If it is a gen1 (different labels on the 3 buttons) buy the Sette or the hand grinder of your choice / budget. The genuine gen1's are a quieter version of the Sette in terms of performance

      I have seem two Baratza "gen2's" which weren't - they had gen1 labelling and performance. Not being mine, I couldn't pull them apart however I reckon they had the gen1 mechanism. Consider them a gen1. Others have gen2 labelling and are actually a gen2. No idea if some dude was being creative or they were shipped like that. Another reason to avoid parallel imports (the Baratza Vario rebadge is for the US only, rest of the world is a Mahlkonig, the Sette is a Baratza only).


      TampIt

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      • #18
        If you're now considering hand grinders, the new OE Apex Grinder using ghost burrs and specifically aimed at non-espresso duty, would also be worth a look. There will be a wait though.

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        • #19
          Tampit makes a good point. Is the Vario an Australian new model? If you can confirm this then it will indeed be a rebadged Mahlkonig and will be greatly superior to any other Baratza. I’d still give the Lido the nod, but a Mahlkonig Vario would be an excellent choice for pour over as well.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by MitchH View Post

            They are pretty much the same price, is the performance the same? It's a lot harder to find a good review on particle consistency for the Comandante than the Lido
            I have a Lido. Very easy to use. 48mm burrs. Not sure how big the Comandante burrs are but if they are 38mm it would be slower than the Lido.
            Not being a poor over drinker I may be wrong - but not sure whether you really need the top end hand grinder for pour over, one of the less expensive models may be suitable?

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            • #21
              Just posting a follow up after making my decision.

              I ended up getting the Comandante C40 hand grinder and love it.

              Takes around 45 seconds to grind 30g of coffee for a double chemex. It's built so well and looks amazing.

              I ended up with this over the Lido primarily due to aesthetics and size. The Lido looks ugly as hell, and it's massive. I can easily take the C40 to work and it looks nice on display.

              Thanks to everyone for all the help! It's really appreciated

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