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  • Eureka Speciality 75 or 65 grinder Australia?

    First post but long time lurker/reader.

    Looking to upgrade my grinder Macap M2M stepped (not micrometric model they have out now).

    Very interested in the Eureka 75 (or 65) but there appears to be no resellers in Australia. Also have interest in the Ceado 37J or 37S, but again no Australian reseller (not interested in buying from box seller from Italy - New Caffe Italia).

    Is there any appetite or plans in the near future for these models to be sold in Australia?

    Cheers
    Nathan

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    CS member ezlau bought a 65 or 75 (can't remember) from overseas and loves it

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    • #3
      I believe you can buy via Casa Espresso but it may be special order and wait for the boat.

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        Can I ask what the exact problem is with buying from a box reseller (maybe stupid question sorry), is it just the warrant hassles in case it breaks and the gst surcharge or there are other issues?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bain89 View Post
          Can I ask what the exact problem is with buying from a box reseller (maybe stupid question sorry), is it just the warrant hassles in case it breaks and the gst surcharge or there are other issues?
          That's the bulk of it. One of the other issues is that they won't have Australian compliance / certification, so if you plug it in and out causes an electrical fire, your insurance company won't pay a cent. Then there's supporting local business etc.

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          • #6
            Thanks. What specific compliment? An AS standard or a CE stamp? I have a Ceado from Italy so I can look on the back at all the stamps and tell you which ones are there.

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            • #7
              I wonder what retention they got...
              As far as I understand original Atom got high retention.

              But in case of Ceado as example the biggest burr got the smallest retention.
              Because most ground coffee retained around the burr. And since the housing is similar big burr leaves less space for ground coffee.

              I am curious if it will be the same with Atoms.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by bain89 View Post
                Thanks. What specific compliment? An AS standard or a CE stamp? I have a Ceado from Italy so I can look on the back at all the stamps and tell you which ones are there.
                Bain the standard now is RCM, regulatory compliance mark, used to be called c-tick. It is a tick in a circle or triangle (or both), depending on what artwork, older or new, was used. There is no way your grinder will have it, it is Aus specific. Probably not a huge risk on a grinder which is turned on and off while you are standing in front of it, moreso on an espreso machine like the Decent which might be turned on by a timer and which has water and electricity inside the machine. Ihad a friend who had his house flooded by a non approved dishwasher, brand new house (meaning all the frailties of modern construction), insurance picked the problem up and wasn't paying.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by bain89 View Post
                  Can I ask what the exact problem is with buying from a box reseller (maybe stupid question sorry), is it just the warrant hassles in case it breaks and the gst surcharge or there are other issues?
                  As others have already pointed out, the risk of compliance with Australian standards. Also the warranty issue, as I believe it's a lot of money to spend and not have a local rep to provide warranty support (if required, and I acknowledge that reputable products likely won't need warranty support, but that's a risk I am unlikely to take). I am also not impressed by sellers who have setups that look like their local to Australia but in fact are not.

                  That's just me but others can do what they like with their hard earned and I respect their choice.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Teach View Post
                    As others have already pointed out, the risk of compliance with Australian standards. Also the warranty issue, as I believe it's a lot of money to spend and not have a local rep to provide warranty support (if required, and I acknowledge that reputable products likely won't need warranty support, but that's a risk I am unlikely to take). I am also not impressed by sellers who have setups that look like their local to Australia but in fact are not.

                    That's just me but others can do what they like with their hard earned and I respect their choice.
                    Yes you’re right it’s a risk you can avoid. But I’m surprised having the CE certification isn’t enough to satisfy the insurance requirements. I will have a look through some insurance sites see if they specifically say.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by matth3wh View Post
                      I believe you can buy via Casa Espresso but it may be special order and wait for the boat.
                      Thanks matth3wh. Will check them out.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by bain89 View Post
                        I will have a look through some insurance sites see if they specifically say.
                        No matter what the lying bastards say on their official bumf, you can bet your bottom dollar they will seize any available loophole to weasel out of actually paying up when things go south. They are in the game to make as much money as possible, not to make your life easier.

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                        • #13
                          I am with Lryebird! I can't imagine any insurance company will say feel free to use equipment without Australian approval. After you would have buckleys on a claim.

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                          • #14
                            Yes and no....

                            Grinders are massively reliable and I have never heard of one going up. I'd be way more concerned if it was a dodgy, non compliant coffee roaster (and there are plenty of them around some of which are part death trap, part roaster).

                            Haven't been involved in a fire, but I'd wonder if insurance forensics would go so far as to check for compliance of each appliance in the affected area unless it was patently obvious?

                            Nevertheless, it's good to support Australian businesses where possible as if we don't, there will be no Australian businesses and we'll all be on Newstart.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lyrebird View Post
                              No matter what the lying bastards say on their official bumf, you can bet your bottom dollar they will seize any available loophole to weasel out of actually paying up when things go south. They are in the game to make as much money as possible, not to make your life easier.
                              Very well said.

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