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  • Is Profitec Pro T64 grinder NOISY?

    Hello,

    I am considering an upgrade from a humble Breville Smart Grinder ... all the way to Profitec Pro T64. (Preparing for the eventual machine upgrade...)

    I live in Cairns and there is no shop here that stocks them. I am concerned about a comment made in a Clive Coffee review video, claiming the Profitec to be a bit noisy.

    This is a bit hard to quantify and I doubt many CoffeeSnob members have grinders lined up for comparison, but in the odd chance that someone has been able to compare the noise level of Profitec Pro T64 to other grinders, I would gladly read their opinions. No matter how subjective.

    Cheers,

    LG

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    My experience with the T64 is extremely limited, I spent 5 minutes with it in a CS sponsor showroom a couple of years back before I ended up buying a Eureka Atom. I also have a Breville BCG820 for reference. The T64 is noticeably louder than the Breville, but grinds much faster. The Breville is around 1g/a, from memory the T64 is around 2-3g/s. Grinding a double shot on the T64 is over so quickly your ears don't quite know what hit them before it's over, to me the Breville takes several seconds of grinding then my ears are decidedly over the noise and want it to stop, I didn't get that with the T64. You need to decide if alouder noise for a short amount of time is better or worse for you. My Atom is much quieter than the Breville, but it's still a coffee grinder and is far from silent. Hypothetically if your MIL was on the phone standing 2m away in the kitchens and you started your Atom she would give you a look and walk into the next room (not that it's ever happened to me &#128521, whereas at my brother's house (with 5 kids at the time) his Atom could hardly be hard at all.

    A few months ago I had a Mahlkoenig Vario on my bench as well and measured the noise level of it, my Atom and my Breville with a completely uncalibrated app on my phone. The Breville and the Vario were quite similar (I think the Vario was a couple of dB louder), and the Atom was about 20dB quieter. As a subjective guess, based on my memory and the numbers from the app, I would estimate the T64 was about 7.5-10dB louder than the Breville.

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    • #3
      Noise wise it’s about average for a grinder in its class.

      It is however very fast - so the noise doesn’t last very long. Under 7 seconds for a double.

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      • #4
        Lauri, when I was looking for an Atom last year there were some group comparisons with the Profitec on youtube. I would google profitec comparison and see what comes up. You will be running the gauntlet of their uncalibrated microphone and your uncalibrated speakers to get anything meaningful, but it is better then no comparison. I cant remember a breville ever being compared unfortunately

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        • #5
          Thank you all for your input.

          Jeez, it's a jungle of grinders out there.... If it wasn't for the frequent 4 AM coffees while the family is still asleep, the noise would not be an issue. I need to build a hood out of egg cartons to make stealth-grinding possible. I sometimes take my Breville in the lounge room, on the sofa. I then cover it with pillows and grind into the container. Works pretty well, as crazy as it sounds. Very muffled.

          Thanks again... The decision will come soon enough.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by level3ninja View Post
            My experience with the T64 is extremely limited, I spent 5 minutes with it in a CS sponsor showroom a couple of years back before I ended up buying a Eureka Atom. I also have a Breville BCG820 for reference. The T64 is noticeably louder than the Breville, but grinds much faster. The Breville is around 1g/a, from memory the T64 is around 2-3g/s. Grinding a double shot on the T64 is over so quickly your ears don't quite know what hit them before it's over, to me the Breville takes several seconds of grinding then my ears are decidedly over the noise and want it to stop, I didn't get that with the T64. You need to decide if alouder noise for a short amount of time is better or worse for you. My Atom is much quieter than the Breville, but it's still a coffee grinder and is far from silent. Hypothetically if your MIL was on the phone standing 2m away in the kitchens and you started your Atom she would give you a look and walk into the next room (not that it's ever happened to me ), whereas at my brother's house (with 5 kids at the time) his Atom could hardly be hard at all.

            A few months ago I had a Mahlkoenig Vario on my bench as well and measured the noise level of it, my Atom and my Breville with a completely uncalibrated app on my phone. The Breville and the Vario were quite similar (I think the Vario was a couple of dB louder), and the Atom was about 20dB quieter. As a subjective guess, based on my memory and the numbers from the app, I would estimate the T64 was about 7.5-10dB louder than the Breville.
            Hey Ninja,
            Are you happy with the grind setting knob in your Atom? I was going to go for the Atom too, but the larger burrs and the worm gear grind setting seemed to offer more precise grind tuning. Does the little knob on Atom turn smoothly, easily, keep its setting and allow enough fine tuning?

            Cheers

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LauriG View Post
              Hey Ninja,
              Are you happy with the grind setting knob in your Atom? I was going to go for the Atom too, but the larger burrs and the worm gear grind setting seemed to offer more precise grind tuning. Does the little knob on Atom turn smoothly, easily, keep its setting and allow enough fine tuning?

              Cheers
              The knob feels well machined and well engineered, very smooth. It's just the right amount of stiffness, if you want to turn it you won't struggle at all, but it doesn't move at all unless you move it. I can adjust it so it only moves a fraction of a millimetre to change the overall shot time by less than 0.5s, or in one movement I can adjust it several millimetres to dial in a new coffee.

              The identification of grind setting is quite poor however. There are numbers 0-9 but the line on the case that you're looking it up with is 2mm wide. I don't think your actually supposed to be able to use it as a reference to move back and forth and find the same setting again, it's a micrometric adjustment so once you're in the ballpark you need to adjust by your senses not numbers.
              Last edited by level3ninja; 9 June 2019, 02:24 PM. Reason: Autocucumber

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              • #8
                LG

                i went from a Breville to a T64 about 18 months ago. I do not recall noticing a difference in the sound level and nor did my wife (and she is much more sensitive to these things). As others have already pointed out the big difference is that the T64 grinds so much faster so the sound is that much less likely to cause an issue. I should also mention that the T64 is a beautifully engineered device and a pleasure to use.

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                • #9
                  Ninja, I also found the 2mm wide mark a bit iffy. I used a 0.5mm permanent marker and marked a newer line nearer the front. Not for recreating a setting, but just helps when dialing in, you can see how big your adjustment was. The 10mm line is barely visible unless you know it is there ( on black).

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                  • #10
                    Thanks for all the advise above: I have had the T64 for a month now, and in case people come to this thread in the future for the same question, I should report the following:

                    The T64 is not particularly quiet, not particularly noisy either. The noise compared to my Breville Smart Grinder is radically smoother. The Breville had a kind of a screamish roughness to it, while the T64 is a precise and smooth sound. There's no vibration or rattle and as was pointed out above, it's pretty quick to do its job. I'm perfectly satisfied with the noise levels.

                    Happy to recommend this grinder for grind quality, looks and quality of build. From a beginner's point of view, it would have been nice if Profitec had put the grind adjustment scale a little more visible, so one could use a visual a reference notch even in poor light. (I've used a tiny speck of children's craft paint, delivered with a tooth pick, to mark a few notches for better visual reference when making small adjustments.

                    I can see how different grinders might have their own quirks and perks. But what lands in the basket ultimately matters most, so very happy with this one now.

                    Cheers,
                    LG

                    LG

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