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Thanks for the link to the nichecoffee review, it was really worth the read!
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I wiggle the cup from side to side in the basket which generally gets all the bits stuck in the cup (also inside that ridge) for my 58mm baskets. For my smaller 51mm basket I use a dosing funnel which works really well, just pour in then bang the portafilter with the funnel still on it which gets everything nice and flat. The advantage of using the cup over dosing into your portafilter is that you can grind while pulling a shot if you're doing multiple.Originally posted by splashalot View PostI did encounter a bit of grounds retention on the walls of the cup due to static. Will see how that pans out - if a regular occurrence I expect a quick spritz of the beans prior to grinding should cure it. Otherwise I'll buy a collar for the portafilter and grind straight into that.
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Finally. FINALLY. A decision has been made. Dollars parted with and a Niche Zero in black now sits on my bench.
Quick first impressions: Yes, this thing does look and feel more substantial in the flesh. The black, IMO, looks the goods next to my old Unico Splendor (Pro 700 left Jetblack yesterday). The white Niche, however, I thought did look a little too kitchen appliance for my set up, but each to their own.
Only put one shot through it so far - a glorious 10 second gusher with decaf beans. I still drank it, anyway! That was on 20, the pre-programmed setting. Will have a play later to dial it in further.
I did encounter a bit of grounds retention on the walls of the cup due to static. Will see how that pans out - if a regular occurrence I expect a quick spritz of the beans prior to grinding should cure it. Otherwise I'll buy a collar for the portafilter and grind straight into that.
Edit: forgot to mention how insanely quick and easy the workflow is. I guess I had underestimated the amount of faffing about with the old Macap sweeping and purging, not to metion the noisy and s-l-o-w grinding. The Niche is way quieter (I'd guess by ~a third to half) and probably twice as fast. This camper is very, very happy.
So thanks to the community for all the sage advice and assistance. Much appreciated.
Edit take 2: Second grind and nailed it! Set the adjustment collar to 10 and the pour was perfect - and the resultant cup spectacular. Definitely richer and more detailed flavours from my post-dinner decaf. Also tried Agrajag's (below) side to side wiggle of the dosing cup which dislodged all grounds into the portafilter - thanks mate
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Originally posted by level3ninja View PostMake sure you read threads about the T64 and V Titan. Stone people have issues with the timed dosing and retention.
Thanks Ninja - you saved me making an expensive mistake there. Had a closer look at the T64 in the flesh and no way would it work with my single dosing workflow. Basically too much retention for a number of insurmountable reasons. Ditto the V Titan, as they share the same systems post-burrs.
Looking at the Niche Zero hopefully Wednesday. Also now considering high end stuff like Compak E10 & Macap M7D etc, if they offer low/zero grind retention for my
pulse-and-brush, single dose workflow.
Suspect I'll end up with the Niche and learn to love the design.
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Thanks gents. That is reassuring - 1 second pour difference on the grind adjustment is heaps fine enough. If it is as fine as the M4, Ash, I'll be happy. Looking forward to seeing it in the metal next week.Last edited by splashalot; 13 February 2020, 09:35 PM. Reason: Originally post made no sense. Whatsoever.
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Re: Adjustment - you won't have any issues. You can can get some very small adjustments from the Niche Zero. I would say equal to the M4 in fineness of adjustability.
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Make sure you read threads about the T64 and V Titan. Stone people have issues with the timed dosing and retention.
As for the adjustability on the Niche, you have nothing to worry about. The labels for espresso, filter etc can be disregarded. The actual numbers you use might be similar but you can use whatever setting you want. I can comfortably adjust by 0.1 of a dot. A whole dot movement might give you ~1s total shot time change.
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After discussion with Jetblack (kudos to Ellie for being SO patient and knowledgeable) I've narrowed the choice down to the Profitec T64 (matches the Pro 700, but not sure I like the square design); the ECM V Titan 64 (love the styling - looks good beside the Pro 700 and same internals as the Profitec T64 but with titanium burrs) or the Niche Zero in black (less appliance-like IMO). My local roaster is getting in some Niche's next week, so I should be able to make a decision after seeing one in the flesh.
I've posted a question in the Niche Zero thread, but may as well repeat here: I love the fineness of adjustment I can get on my Macap with the worm drive mechanism (the Profitec and ECM grinders above also have this system). Would I be able to replicate similar levels of fineness in adjustment on the Niche? The adjustment scale for espresso on the Niche looks quite small in photos. I'm wondering if the steps would be too large for very fine adjustment?
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Ha! You're still a legend. ;-)Originally posted by Conic View PostGoogle owns that one
Thought it would help you visualize them together
That actually does help - a heap. I don't mind that at all. Actually looks pretty flash, I reckon.
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Google owns that one
Thought it would help you visualize them together
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Legend! That's the EXACT set-up! Even down to the flow profiling valve on the Pro 700. How do you find this combination? Any comments/recommendations?Originally posted by Conic View PostThis might help...
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After seeing that photo I think the black Niche just might settle it. But will see what Jetblack have to say.
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Mine is white, but I suspect the black would look even less appliance like.
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That's exactly my issue with it, Ninja - looks like a toy/appliance. Good to get that feedback, thanks. I'm wondering if it would look less appliance-like in black?Originally posted by level3ninja View PostI found the Niche to look much better in person than in photos, looks like a toy in photos but the powder coated aluminium body looks legit in the flesh. Can't do anything about the design but the materials look high quality. Aside from the finish on the wood (I sanded it and oiled it, looks alright now).
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