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    Plenty of Sette threads but couldn't find much or any info on single dosing through it.
    Ive been doing it lately, actually works a treat. No pop corning or very little if any. Grinds seem consistent. Pours taste great.
    I literally purge with 1 bean between use.
    Many others tried it? Any thoughts?
    I've got a Wi. The instructions say don't single dose because of software trying to correct itself. So i just run it in manual mode. Hold the play button till 'P' pops up and away you go. Pop 20in, 20 comes out and the scale still weighs it.
    Last edited by PhatBoy; 21 July 2020, 09:39 PM.

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    Pulled the burrs out & cleaned them. There was 2.3g of grind retention build up in the plastic burr carrier.
    Ran some beans though and it retained the same amount. Next shot was 20in 20 out.
    Wondering how the retained grind effects the quality of the next shots regardless of single dosing or not? Does it just bed in and stay there and act like a barrier? Does it taint flavour over the next few days etc until i pull it out to clean?
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    • #3
      Originally posted by PhatBoy View Post
      Plenty of Sette threads but couldn't find much or any info on single dosing through it.
      Ive been doing it lately, actually works a treat. No pop corning or very little if any. Grinds seem consistent. Pours taste great.
      I literally purge with 1 bean between use.
      Many others tried it? Any thoughts?
      I've got a Wi. The instructions say don't single dose because of software trying to correct itself. So i just run it in manual mode. Hold the play button till 'P' pops up and away you go. Pop 20in, 20 comes out and the scale still weighs it.
      I've had my 270wi for nearly two years and have only ever single-dosed, and have always weighed and ground using a preset and the built-in Acaia scales almost always show the grinds weight as being within 0.1 - 0.2g of the preset. The only time it's further off is when I adjust the grind ring or change beans. After the preset runs its course, I keep the Pay button pressed to start manual grinding to remove any remains. I've also seen very little popcorning.

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      • #4
        So interesting Mark, i didn't realise it was possible in the sette. Have you cleaned your burrs and found a similar amount of old imbedded grinds though. All stuck in the plastic burr carrier. Do you think they would taint flavour much?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PhatBoy View Post
          So interesting Mark, i didn't realise it was possible in the sette. Have you cleaned your burrs and found a similar amount of old imbedded grinds though. All stuck in the plastic burr carrier. Do you think they would taint flavour much?
          It's been quite a while since I cleaned the burrs. I can't recall being surprised by the volume of stuck grounds, so it mustn't have been much. I doubt whether they would taint the flavour. If they're stuck, I'm guessing that:
          • they would not find their way into the current dose as they're stuck and don't have a clear pathway to be pushed into the fresh path
          • if they did, it'd be so small a volume (owing to the "straight-through" design) as to have a negligible impact
          • the grounds being produced in the current dose would spend negligible, if any, time near or touching the stale, stuck grounds
          Possible case in point: I received my very first 500g of CoffeeSnobs beans today: "Fiefy's Barista Blend", after doing about 1Kg of Hyper-Hyper Blend 6 (darkest, oiliest roast I've ever seen!) ages ago, followed by a couple of Kg of Campos Superior, and the first shot today was delicious, even though it's not completely dialled-in!

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          • #6
            Fair points.
            Would also be interesting to know if a slower grind speed would improve grind quality, it grinds so quick anyway. Slower speed might reduce the noise levels. My only complaint about the grinder.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by PhatBoy View Post
              Fair points.
              Would also be interesting to know if a slower grind speed would improve grind quality, it grinds so quick anyway. Slower speed might reduce the noise levels. My only complaint about the grinder.
              Indeed. I don't know enough to hazard a guess. Maybe Baratza had to trade-off slower desired speed for motor size to fit in the small package, assuming that the smaller the motor, the lower the torque, and the higher the speed needed to compensate. Mine has jammed stop a couple of times!

              I wonder whether the volume of lodged grounds increases in lower humidity environments. I can't recall having any static issues with mine.

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              • #8
                Three volume would decrease fat far less than the speed would decrease. If you look at dB/s and added up total dB you'd have much more on the shower grind.

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                • #9
                  I proofread sometimes...

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                  It was a challenging read

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                    Even more of a challenge when the dreaded Auto-Correct gets a-hold of it!


                    Java "Now where did I put that dikshonearie..." phile
                    Toys! I must have new toys!!!

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                    • #12
                      Originally posted by PhatBoy View Post
                      Pulled the burrs out & cleaned them. There was 2.3g of grind retention build up in the plastic burr carrier.
                      Ran some beans though and it retained the same amount. Next shot was 20in 20 out.
                      Wondering how the retained grind effects the quality of the next shots regardless of single dosing or not? Does it just bed in and stay there and act like a barrier? Does it taint flavour over the next few days etc until i pull it out to clean?
                      PhatBoy You inspired me to get under the hood and clean my grinder. As with you, I cleaned-out about 2g of grounds from the inner burr assembly and about 0.2g (measured with my not-so-Decent scales - Acaia Lunar scales should be delivered on Monday!). Granted, there was also half a bean in that lot.

                      As an aside, I'm pretty surprised that my macro setting is at 4 (no change because of cleaning), when I remember it being at 8 when new (Aug 2018). I only grind 20g a day, and generally spend four weeks a year away, and didn't use the grinder all summer in 2018/19 and 2019/20 because I focused on cold brew (the 270wi doesn't grind coarsely enough for cold brew, so I use a Hario Skerton hand grinder).

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                      • #13
                        Nice!
                        Let us know if the 2.3g gets stuck back in there after the first dose

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by PhatBoy View Post
                          Nice!
                          Let us know if the 2.3g gets stuck back in there after the first dose
                          PhatBoy I'm glad you asked, because when I ground a dose this morning, the puck blew apart almost immediately. I clicked the macro dial down to 3 (seriously?!) and the next shot was fine. After I grind each time, I press the Play button on the grinder to purge whatever is still in the grinder because I single-dose, weighing 20g of beans, then dropping them in the grinder hopper, so theoretically, there should never be any grounds in the normal path.

                          I pulled the inner burr assembly out again, and again, grounds had stuck in the slots in the plastic sleeve that the grounds fall through. I tapped-out the grounds, but this didn't dislodge he ones in the slots, so I poked them through with my raking tool (aka needle stuck in a cork), and they weighed-in at 1.0g. Having seen the grounds retained in the normal path, and thinking that the next grind would push them through into the portafilter, and having them weigh-in at 1.0g, I now believe that there would be a little stale grounds taint. If it was 0.3g, then no, but 1.0g - I think yes.

                          Then I got to wondering why I had to drop the macro dial down to 3 after tinkering with the inner burr assembly yesterday, and didn't need to wonder for long - the inner burr came off in my hand!

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                          Looks like the factory applied the Loctite (or whatever it is) too far down the thread for the burr's thread to get any, so that may be how the burr worked its way loose.

                          When I saw this, I thought that that might be why I've had to move my macro setting from 9 when I bought the grinder to 4, but that appears not to be the case: after reassembly, I set the macro dial at 9 (and micro at E), ground a dose, and it channeled immediately, I reduce the macro by one click, rinsed and repeated, and got the same result...all the way back down to 4.

                          Now I'm wondering whether the loose inner burr has caused sufficient wear for me to have to move the macro dial from 9 to 4 in what I would think would be light work since purchase. However, I can't see any uneven wear of the burr. It's comforting to know that the Sette parts appear to be inexpensive.

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                            hmmm....did you install the shim kit?

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