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  • #31
    Re: Splitting the Grinders category

    Id say just go back to Scorpions original suggestion: Below $600 and $600+

    I think that is a fair divide between domestic and professional grinders. I know theres some overlap butit beats arguing over various classifications or putting it into the too-hard single basket.

    I vote for the double basket (sorry)

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    • #32
      Re: Splitting the Grinders category

      Luca

      Sounds good. I had considered a similar four level split but forsaw problems over grinders that are just under or just over the category limits. If the division were to be descriptive without dollars then you could get a relatively anomalous situation of a grinder rated with what is seen as its "quality "classification but significantly above or below its $ classification. My idea with a simple two category split was that you would pick up the dollar categorisation that most people look at and which probably has the most machines (entry), after which any more developed/refined requirements would be met by the more advanced and expensive group, which also seems to be smaller in number. However I am happy however its split.

      S

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      • #33
        Re: Splitting the Grinders category

        How about a simple 3-Way split then.... :-?

        Entry level...... Machines up to $300
        Up to Prosumer Level.... Machines up to $750
        Commercial and beyond.... Machines over $750

        Of course, the problem with using cost to split these categories is that grinders seem to make significant upward movements in cost from time to time, relative to espresso machines which on a percentage basis seem to remain much more constant. I personally dont think we should start splitting categories based on specifics such as.... Whether a machine uses Stepped Adjustment or Micro Adjustment; whether it uses Flat Burrs, Conical Burrs or any combination there-of, etc; it just starts to get too messy.

        Mal.

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        • #34
          Re: Splitting the Grinders category

          What about the same split but without the dollars.
          That way it wont date as easily.

          We all know what an entry level one is etc.

          The lines do blur a bit where they meet but that can be worked out.

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          • #35
            Re: Splitting the Grinders category

            Originally posted by Thundergod link=1213770099/20#33 date=1214205597
            What about the same split but without the dollars.
            That way it wont date as easily.
            For the less experienced members/guest, price guidelines are good. You have them for the coffee machines. It shouldnt be difficult to edit the forum titles to adjust the limits

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            • #36
              Re: Splitting the Grinders category

              The three way split seems good, but I agree that there should be dollar levels which could hopefully be altered over time. Regardless of what we would like to buy, our choices are ultimately driven by what we have to spend, and that therefore becomes the guide to what areas will be looked at.

              S

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              • #37
                Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                Originally posted by Scorpion link=1213770099/20#35 date=1214222089
                Regardless of what we would like to buy, our choices are ultimately driven by what we have to spend, and that therefore becomes the guide to what areas will be looked at.

                Thats debatable if youre a sucker like me and spends far over what he has, just to get something Id like to buy. ;D

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                • #38
                  Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                  Youre welcome in my shop everyday mate. I give you best price...

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                  • #39
                    Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                    The front page of the current grinders category shows 2 full weeks of posts. Does the volume posted really justify splitting? Its not like recent posts are being pushed off the front page before people manage to read them.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                      Yes, I have noticed that Mark; when this topic was first posted but if members (and prospective members) think that splitting it up will be helpful then its worth discussing.... Even if the end result is a decision to leave things as they are for the time being,

                      Mal.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                        Originally posted by Mal link=1213770099/20#25 date=1214038910
                        Personally, I prefer going with Burr Size/Type and leave the end users purpose up to them, e.g.

                        Small Conical - Lux, Iberital Challenge, etc
                        Flat Burr-Plates <= 50mm - Rocky, etc
                        Flat Burr-Plates <= 60mm - Mazzer Mini, etc
                        Flat Burr-Plates <= 70mm - Mazzer Super Jolly, etc
                        Flat Burr-Plates > 70mm - Mazzer Major, etc
                        Large Conical > 60mm - Mazzer Kony, Robur, etc

                        This could probably be condensed somewhat to reduce the number of categories but you get the general idea though....

                        Mal.

                        So thatd be two categories.

                        Mazzer, and everything else.

                        ;D

                        Cheers
                        Simon

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                        • #42
                          Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                          Likewise. I agree with  abaddonxi on this topic.

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                          • #43
                            Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                            I reckon the basic price brackets are great and give new people like me a starting point.

                            As a new purchaser of a grinder still in transit, the mazzer was out of my price bracket (but oh, how I wanted it), but the review of the compak and mazzer by pullman gave me the drive to push my uneducated price bracket up from $300ish to reach the compak, well into the next category suggested by Mal.

                            For example: I copiously read the upper-price threads on coffee machines, because thats where Im heading. I dont generally read the low and mid-priced coffee machine threads unless I have a specific interest. Saves on some reading. (I spend waaay too much time reading information on this site as it is Its just too good not to!)

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                            • #44
                              Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                              I dont generally read the low and mid-priced coffee machine threads unless I have a specific interest.
                              Intellidepth Likewise if the grinder section is split into price other CSers wont read the thread if it seems out of their price range and may miss out on reading about and being convinced to up the ante and buy a more expensive grinder as you have after reading the review on the Compak.

                              Mals suggestion of breaking up re burr size etc also gives a starting point.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Splitting the Grinders category

                                Originally posted by cremakid link=1213770099/40#43 date=1214518727
                                Likewise if the grinder section is split into price other CSers wont read the thread if it seems out of their price range and may miss out on reading about and being convinced to up the ante and buy a more expensive grinder as you have after reading the review on the Compak.
                                Im not sure this is necessarily a bad thing though, internet forums are a great way to get carried away and end up spending way more than you originally intended based purely on other peoples opinions. Ive seen it so, so, so many times on forums like head-fi.

                                Im not saying that this is always bad, and may be necessary for example, if someone truly has no idea of what budget they need to be allocating. But in this case a helpful post by a member could point them in the right direction.

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