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  • crazyhakins
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    I mean I do move the portafilter around. Can’t edit the post for some reason.

  • crazyhakins
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    The e37s intrigues me. I’m a little concerned about the distribution issues some have reported, although I don’t move the portafilter during grinding to get it evenly in the basket and use stockfleth method. If the S had the quick release macro adjustment the SD has, it would be ideal. Is there any other suggestions in the e37s range worth considering? Single dosing is not really a big deal for me.

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  • JetBlack_Espresso
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    We had a customer pick up an E37SD this week. I dialled it in and ran some coffee through it for a couple of days just to see how long it took to settle/run in. The good news is that it only took a couple of shots to dial in and I didn't have to change it after that. I now have to find a way to convince the boss that we need one at home for a longer "test" . It was awesome

    charlie

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  • henbill
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    I have a Ceado conical burr grinder I believe the 92 t - I got it used, but in brand new condition. It is very well constructed and impressive to use. I agree that making setting changes could be better and the worm gear they have recently introduced I believe is intended to deal with that issue and it sounds like it does. I intend to purchase the E37sd singledose and have a flat burr grinder as well. - it comes with the worm gear and is based on the E37s but has a slightly slower grind speed. Ceado's machine I believe are for the long term.

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  • flynnaus
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    My next grinder move was always going to be a timed doserless having spent all my CoffeeSnob years with a manual dosered grinder. I had the Profitec T64 on my shortlist too and had been humming and haaing about the Niche before discovering and researching the Ceado range.
    Courtesy of the Oz taxpayer, I had some stimulus dollars to spend and took on the responsibility of fixing the economy single-handedly by spending up. if I sell my other grinder(s) I could squeeze the E37J into my budget.
    Having sampled its output, no regrets about my purchase. So far, shot quality has been a step up from my old Macap conical. The ability to easily access the burrs without losing the grinder setting and hands-free dosing sealed the deal.
    I don't think you would go wrong with the E6P which is identical to the E37J in burr set and motor size.
    If you can hang on until the covid restrictions are lifted, I would definitely recommend trying out the grinders on your shortlist. With a $1500+ spend, you don't want buyers remorse.
    Last edited by flynnaus; 7 October 2020, 02:31 PM. Reason: Changed ,manual doserless' to 'manual DOSERED'

  • MrGadget77
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    Originally posted by flynnaus View Post


    On the E37J, the adjustment lever is metal with a plastic knob on the end. Quite sturdy enough but check it for yourself. One of the WLL videos shows removal of the rubber collar to access and relocate the grinder adjustment lever to centralise it if desired. You can see what the adjustment lever is made of.
    Actually, you can see it here (third pic)
    One big factor that influenced my purchase of the E37J rather than the E37S was that there are no stocks of E37S available and no ETA (well, there is one Melbourne-based vendor who sells the Ceado but not sure if they have the E37S in stock and wasn't going to ask)
    I have a Mazzer Mini that uses a lever adjustment and a Macap MKX that has a micrometric adjustment. I prefer the lever adjustment for speed and simplicity.
    Thanks for the detailed response. For me, the S is over my budget (so is the J actually) so in the $1,500 range I have been looking at "(online only due to covid in Melbourne ), the Rocket Fausto, Profitec Pro T64 and Ceado e6p.

    The Ceado caught my attention (never heard of it before) so looked at the step up model (E37J) and thought I'd be willing to spend a bit over my $1500 budget if warranted.

    It's a bit hard to make a decision when I can't physically see and touch the grinders.

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  • flynnaus
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    I made my first proper shot on my E37J this morning.The shot was split into two lattes using Ethiopian Harrar Longberry (roasted on 27/9).. Absolutely delicious but getting chocolate rather than fruitiness but there was a hint of fruit in the after-taste.
    Made myself an espresso soon after and once again got the strong chocolate hit and again there was a fruitiness in the length. Not the blueberry you might expect from a Harrar but someone with a better palate than me could better describe it.
    I should add that I now roast on a corretto rather than my old KKTO and I'm still getting used to controlling the roast profile but the faster roast times are producing better flavours and brightness in the cup.

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  • flynnaus
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    Originally posted by MrGadget77 View Post
    ....the lever looks cheap to me compared to everything else on the J model, is it made of plastic?

    On the E37J, the adjustment lever is metal with a plastic knob on the end. Quite sturdy enough but check it for yourself. One of the WLL videos shows removal of the rubber collar to access and relocate the grinder adjustment lever to centralise it if desired. You can see what the adjustment lever is made of.
    Actually, you can see it here (third pic)
    One big factor that influenced my purchase of the E37J rather than the E37S was that there are no stocks of E37S available and no ETA (well, there is one Melbourne-based vendor who sells the Ceado but not sure if they have the E37S in stock and wasn't going to ask)
    I have a Mazzer Mini that uses a lever adjustment and a Macap MKX that has a micrometric adjustment. I prefer the lever adjustment for speed and simplicity.
    Last edited by flynnaus; 7 October 2020, 10:29 AM. Reason: Add link to Ceado site

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  • MrGadget77
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    Originally posted by davltay View Post
    I have a E37, one thing is the adjustment lever is hard to move. Wish i could one of those worm mods for fine tuning.
    The other thing that annoys me is the chute anti static flap - 1/5 of gram gets stuck otherwise retention would be almost 0.
    I wish the adjustment lever was replaced with the same mechanism as on the e37s model and above. I've only seen the Ceados on YouTube but the lever looks cheap to me compared to everything else on the J model, is it made of plastic?

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  • Paolo
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    Congratulations!

  • davltay
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    I have a E37, one thing is the adjustment lever is hard to move. Wish i could one of those worm mods for fine tuning.
    The other thing that annoys me is the chute anti static flap - 1/5 of gram gets stuck otherwise retention would be almost 0.

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  • flynnaus
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    Well I took the plunge and lashed out on a Ceado E37J. Early days while I get used to it but early signs are very promising. Debbie from Jetblack made a shot for me using the demo E37J and it was very very nice and smooth. Once I got it home and spent about 45 mins getting to know it, I made my first shot on it using a 16 day old KJM blend roast which poured much too quick but a quick taste wasn't unpleasant even though it was on the sour side. As I was at my limit of caffeination and my Profitec is due for a backflush, I will resume tomorrow.
    Watch this space.

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  • MrGadget77
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    I do also like the way you can manually grind on the e37 range with the portafilter, can't do this on the e6p. the price is a big step up into though, it's only about $100 difference in US dollars.

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  • JetBlack_Espresso
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    The first option for me. I have used a lot of grinders from new (in the prosumer range) over the last twenty years and haven't had many sink shots after dialling in. I've needed to adjust finer over the first few kilos for some models but it's usually a gradual thing and doesn't result in sink shots. I'm currently running an E6P at home and an E5SD at work and haven't had to touch the adjustment (while keeping the blend consistent) over the first few kilos.

    charlie

  • flynnaus
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    There is a YouTube vid on the WLL website about seasoning burrs with focus on the Ceado. The guy from Ceado says that the company doesn't season its burrs at the factory as they don't want to add to the cost. They also don't sandblast the burrs as an alternative to running beans through the grinder as it significantly shortens the life of the burrs .
    There doesn't appear to be any consensus on how much coffee needs to be ground to achieve acceptable seasoning
    • do you just use the grinder an d accept the shots won't be consistent?
    • do you run a kg or two through and then general use to complete the job, accepting that you might get the occasional gusher or choker shot?
    • do you run 5-10kg of beans through to be sure?

    The3rd option seems too wasteful; the second is more sensible but is it necessary?
    Then there's the question of how much beans to run through? 100-200 grams at a time, a hopperful at a time?

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