I currently mainly make espresso using my ECM Synchronika with Eureka Mignon (E) grinder. I’d like to experience black coffee using the Behmor Brazen 3 but I’m not sure which grinder to use with it. I feel that Eureka Mignon can remain my espresso grinder until I upgrade to something better down the track - eg Atom 65. Am I right in thinking that I should just get a grinder that’s good for drip and filter coffee? Something capable of also doing espresso will offer the benefit of being a backup option down the track. Ones I’ve been looking at include : Baratza Sette 30 AP and 270 - not the WI Baratza Encore or Virtuozo plus Compak K3 Push or Touch Macap M2M Mahlkoenig Vario - although it is too high in price range Any suggestions would be highly appreciated. I’m not limiting myself to grinders listed above. These are just what I came across in my research.
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I think that the Eureka Mignon E grinder would be absolutely great and fine to use on the behmor brazen. A drawback is that the dials get a bit hard to remember where your espresso settings were if you were switching between espresso and filter coffee settings often. Having an extra grinder serves more of a workflow purpose in this situation, since I believe your Mignon E would do filter coffee very well in its price range competing against the baratza options you have highlighted. The Vario I believe would be my choice for filter out of the above if funds weren't a problem
Offering a suggestion, if you are considering another grinder, why not consider a newer one for your ECM synchronika instead and leave the Mignon E for the Brazen? I think your return on value and taste would be better noticed on upgrading your espresso grinder instead.
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Hi Lecn1302, Thanks for your reply. It would be best if I could do as you’re suggesting as I’d much rather invest in a new grinder for espresso. I just didn’t know if my Mignon would go coarse enough for Brazen.Originally posted by lecn1302 View PostI think that the Eureka Mignon E grinder would be absolutely great and fine to use on the behmor brazen. A drawback is that the dials get a bit hard to remember where your espresso settings were if you were switching between espresso and filter coffee settings often. Having an extra grinder serves more of a workflow purpose in this situation, since I believe your Mignon E would do filter coffee very well in its price range competing against the baratza options you have highlighted. The Vario I believe would be my choice for filter out of the above if funds weren't a problem Offering a suggestion, if you are considering another grinder, why not consider a newer one for your ECM synchronika instead and leave the Mignon E for the Brazen? I think your return on value and taste would be better noticed on upgrading your espresso grinder instead.
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Thanks Andy. I guess I need to decide on a new espresso grinder then. Would a Mignon speecialita be a good enough upgrade for my Mignon E? Atom, Vario, Sette 270WI are others I’m considering.Originally posted by Andy View PostI agree with lecn1302, the Migon will be great for the Brazen and if you are buying something else for espresso then you won't have the hassle of dialing it back in.
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Thanks to BeanBay, my brazen plus 3 arrived yesterday. Put on to duty today with eureka Mignon. 72gm dose of Columbia roast from local roaster and result was pretty good. I’m sure I’ll get better slowly.
the brazen looks like a solid machine. Calibrating it was pretty easy and just using the gold filter for now. Will get paper filters when I order beans from beanbay next.
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We start with 92C / 45 seconds pre-soak / 1.2L water / 75g coffee.
Keeping those settings and adjusting the grinder seems to get the best results. Typically the Americans grind very coarse (like hitting beans with a hammer) but I find the AU taste is bit finer but your taste buds will tell you which works best.
We tend to use paper filters at work and home, mostly out of laziness and easy clean up but used the gold basket successfully for many years before we imported the right paper.
Enjoy!
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Think what you've got will work fine but if you wanted a dedicated brew grinder it's hard to go past Fellows Ode.
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I suspect that grinding for brewing has larger tolerances than for espresso.Originally posted by tompoland View PostThink what you've got will work fine but if you wanted a dedicated brew grinder it's hard to go past Fellows Ode.
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Ive had many drip brewers in my life, Behmor included. Ive always used a a ditting bag grinder when grinding for paper filter or the mesh filters.
A while back i came across a moccamaster grinder on here for sale and thought id give it ago. I have to say its really done the job for both paper and mesh filter brewing. Its only suitable for this however its a lot less pricey than some of the other contenders. Really impressed with the grind of it for this process and have not used my ditting for this since.
Cheers,
Chris
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Yes, per the manual the calibration is in feet.Originally posted by Garrus View PostThe height over sea level is in feet, right? I think I calibrated with metres figure earlier. I’ve done it again now. I hope temperature is set correctly now.
Altitude calibration is not a "biggie" for Aussies, you live at sea level, we all do! - (a generalisation that will be correct most of the time)
Water boils at 1C earlier for every 300m in altitude so for most everyone in Australia the difference will be minor. A lot of people in other countries live at altitudes higher than Kosciuszko so it's a great feature for them.
I've only really used the Brazen calibration once in anger when we spent a few days at Mt Hotham village (about 6000 feet).
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