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  • AngryBeans
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    I’m happy with my Bezerra BB005 paired with my La Pavoni’s but I’d love a HeyCafe H1 for when I grind and bag coffee for my sister and some friends- I also have a Mazzer Luigi and JX800 for these large quantities but for single dose the Bezzera.

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  • wattgn
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    Any updates?

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  • doubleobill
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    Hi everyone

    I've had the Ceado for about two weeks now, thought I'd post a bit of an update for anybody who might be interested in the machine.

    Firstly, its very solid and well built, the base and grind adjustment are plastic and the quality feels good. The grinder is bigger then expected but this probably my fault for not paying for attention to the width and depth of it (I only bothered to really look at the height).

    The machine itself works well, it took some trial and error but I think I am consistently getting pretty close to zero retention, I find that pumping the bellows part way through the grind and then after works best for me, I sit the bean cup in the top of the bellows whilst grinding like this person does https://youtu.be/7U-ixboCjII. I do find that a small amount of coffee gets stuck in the chute and requires a small brush or similar to be stuck up there to poke it free. The machine is also reasonably quite at least when compared to the grinder on our Lelit Kate. There are a few things I was really expected, one is the grind time. One the Kate it took around 12.5 seconds to grind roughly 21grams of beans, the default (and only setting) on the Ceado is 20 second I believe however I am finding that I need to consistently press the pulse button again and let it run for another 5 to 10 seconds to finish. What appears to be happening is that the last few beans are pop corning quite badly and take a look time to find there way into the burrs. There is also more clumping then I expected and I have had to make a few changes (adding WDT) to my dosing method to try and avoid shot channelling but its a bit of a battle. Dosing straight into the portafilter using the included funnel to easy enough or there is the included dosing cup.

    All in all I am happy with the purchase, I don't think I would have ground more then 500g to date so I am hoping to get a bit more consistency once the burrs fully season but I would recommend the grinder for consideration by anyone who single doses

    thanks for all the input
    Sam

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  • doubleobill
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    hi Everyone, thanks for all the input. For a few different reasons I decided to go with the Ceado, coming from using Lelit Kate I am sure it will be a decent step up.

    Thanks again
    Sam

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  • sam678
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    Here's a solution to the height issue on the H1,

    https://coffeesnobs.com.au/forum/equ...-grinder/page6

    if you have access to a 3D printer.

  • doubleobill
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    thanks, I actually came across this thread the other day and read your write-up. Interesting information

  • lancruiser
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    Anyway it looks like the Ceado runs at 1380 rpm whereas the P64 tops out at at 1400, so there's a fair bit of difference there
    You can't really compare grinder based on grind speed. The burr geometry will play a more significant role in determining the flavour in the cup. For example, if you choose the High Uniformity burr set in the P64, you will get more clarity and less body than a Eureka Atom 65 for the same coffee even when they are grinding at the same RPM. See my write-up here.

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  • lancruiser
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    It's mean to be relatively. For espresso, I am grinding at speed 4 up to 10 depend on what I am trying to achieve. For filter (V60 and the like), I am grinding with speed 2 or 3. I am thinking of ordering another P64 with the brew burr set specifically for filter.

  • doubleobill
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    thanks, out of curiosity, what number do you use for lower? Looking at your table I would be going to toward lower, but I dont know if Id really change it up much, who knows. Anyway it looks like the Ceado runs at 1380 rpm whereas the P64 tops out at at 1400, so there's a fair bit of difference there

  • wattgn
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    I have owned the Atom 60E and I think it is overkill but also I didn't like the design particularly. It has a long chute and can be prone to blockage. It also takes several tools to take apart and clean.

    The later model Atom grinders such as the 65 and 75 do single dose well (reportedly). The 60E won't single dose without a lot of annoying pop corning.

    I thought that the single dosing of the Specialita is excellent.

  • lancruiser
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    Originally posted by doubleobill View Post
    I can see the p64 was the variable speed motor, but I have no idea if I would make use of that feature.
    I am not trying to convince you one way or another but to provide you with more things to pounder.

    I have a Lagom P64 with the high uniformity burr set. I see the variable speed grinding as a fine-turning feature. Depending on the grind speed, you get very slightly different notes in the coffee even when cutting through milk. The following table summarise my observations. Depending on how sensitive you palate is, you may or may not notice the difference but I think most people will notice it. The question is: are you appreciative of the different notes that can be had from a variable speed grinder?
    Lower grind speed Higher grind speed
    More clarity Less clarity
    Less body More body
    Less cocoa notes More cocoa notes

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  • roosterben
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    I have owned an Atom 60E and single dosed it for a 6 months or so just using a tamper. I have also used a Mignon 50mm for a short period, honestly I think the Mignon is a better option. The Atom 60 does a get a heap of grounds caught in the chamber and chute, actual retention is not too bad but that and the fact the schute is longer and plastic ended up turning me off the grinder.

    You can also consider the DF64, even though it doesn't tick the Australian warranty box there is a NZ distributor in place, I think it is about $750 odd AUD. But at $340 USD plus shipping online it is good value for a single doser if you want to buy from China without warranty.

  • saeco_user
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    wattgn, would you put the Atom in the same category (good for on-demand and single dosing)?

  • doubleobill
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    hi Wattgn, this is the grinder I had in mind initially actually, then I started to read some things online and got it into my head that its not going to fit the bill as a single dosing grinder. Its nearly half the price of the Ceado aswell

  • wattgn
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    Lots of people on the forum have the small but powerful and great at single dosing Eureka Mignon Specialita. Not cheap but not outrageously expensive and fits nicely in any kitchen. Will last forever. I have used it with the hopper and now single dosing. It is very versatile and this is what most people need. You can use it as you want.

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