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  • #16
    Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

    While I agree with TG in the main, I dont believe that grind uniformity is anywhere near as critical when using a plunger. After all, using a plunger soaks the grinds. I wouldnt think theres too much extraction going on there.

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    • #17
      Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

      Yes it does........big difference IMO, especially when cupping.

      Uniformity of particles is important, though probably more so for espresso [since the extraction is fast & pressurised], but the bigger difference grinders make in cupping and plungers is down to the fines [or lack thereof].

      Lesser grinders and those with some "play" in their adjustment produce fines [dust]. This dust will make your plunger cloudy muddy and more bitter..................

      I reckon this is one of the key differentiators between the Aeropress and a French Press: ie the Aeropres is much less fussy about grind.

      Anyway, you now have an SJ and a Breville: try it out and let us know what you think.

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      • #18
        Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

        Thanks for defending me reubster.

        Dennis I know you werent disagreeing with me but I just want to point out I didnt say "critical" just that it would make a difference.

        The next question would obviously be "how much of a difference?".
        You were just one step ahead of me.

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        • #19
          Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

          Originally posted by reubster link=1217290298/0#16 date=1217387225
          Yes it does........big difference IMO, especially when cupping.

          Uniformity of particles is important, though probably more so for espresso [since the extraction is fast & pressurised], but the bigger difference grinders make in cupping and plungers is down to the fines [or lack thereof].

          Lesser grinders and those with some "play" in their adjustment produce fines [dust]. This dust will make your plunger cloudy muddy and more bitter..................

          I reckon this is one of the key differentiators between the Aeropress and a French Press: ie the Aeropres is much less fussy about grind.

          Anyway, you now have an SJ and a Breville: try it out and let us know what you think.

          Gee reubster, how did cupping and the AeroPress get extrapolated from a question about vacpots and plunger?

          a) I was referring to grinders, not spice helicopters, and lesser grinders really arent much better. Though I do know that lots of people do enjoy those suspended particles from a plunger,
          b) I have totally the opposite view in regard to the AeroPress - the better the grind quality the better the result,
          c) TG, I wasnt having a go at you, but I read "yes it would" as a fairly definitive statement.

          Anyway, sorry to take it off topic. Like reubster said, try it for yourself and let us know.

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          • #20
            Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

            I didnt take it as having a go Dennis.
            You just have to remember my style - succint.
            Sometimes it comes across as vague or lacking in detail.
            I think I answered the question...definitively.
            I think you answered a different one.

            To get back on topic - sell the Breville.

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            • #21
              Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

              Thanks for replies people. I have been using Bar Aroma for awhile, on vac pot, plunger and aeropress. Bar Aroma is a burr grinder, and so far this is the best grinder I have until the SJ.

              For lack of comparison, I was happily drinking coffee from all three methods.

              I still have to wait for SJ to arrive, then Ill do blind test on wife :

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              • #22
                Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

                I drink plunger at my parents with an old hand grinder. Its quite drinkable but leaves a lot more sediment than with the mini.

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                • #23
                  Re: Upgraded from Breville to Super Jolly

                  Well, Ive completed several comparos with a Rocky and my current LSM at Drip, Plunger, Moka Pot and Espresso brewing methods and without doubt, you can definitely taste a significant improvement in the quality of the cup. I think this topic has arisen several times over the years with similar outcomes being noted. The quality of the grinder affects the quality in the cup regardless of the brewing method used....

                  Mal.

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