Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

[stuartgrant]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

Bargain!

Keep us updated - I love to hear these stories of people starting up roasteries!

BTW - regarding Mark from Coffee Roaster Australias comment, the roaster in the photo looks more like the HGS model which has 3 motors... bit hard to tell though. Have a read of the Has Garanti owners thread - it has some good info on whats gone into speccing-up the HGs that come to Australia. Hopefully something similar goes on in NZ?

No matter - its the roaster-operator that counts! (Up to a point!)
Go for it.
Cheers
Stuart.

[redzone121]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

Update: This particular roaster has been offered to me for $9k NZ as it did not meet reserve at auction ($11K) wish me luck !

CB

[redzone121]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

Much appreciated Mark !

[CoffeeRoasters]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

Hi Chris,

You mentioned the roaster is now $11k NZ. Just check that it is not a cheaper model as the Has Garanti 5kg can also come in the cheaper 2 Motor and also even cheaper belt driven model.

I would suggest at minimum the HGS5 which is the three motor model.

Cheers, Mark

[elbeano]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

I have roasted thousands of kilos using Has Garantis and have had no problems with any. They are very easy to use,maintain and produce an excellent product. There are a couple being used in Newmarket area Auckland,might be worth checking out? Coffee Roasters Australia supplied them I think? .......Les would know but he aint with us any more. A 2kg takes about 15-20 mins to roast from memory,thats 6-8 kilos per hour.Enough to supply the whole of Northland eh bro!

[ccc2]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

There have been many changes to HG roasters across the last couple of years. I your responses might be influenced by when you last used one ccc

Just again this morning......

[redzone121]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

Better clarify !
I am wanting to purchase a small commercial roaster to
A) Learn on and as a Hobby B) Able to supply more people and have the ability to roast more if demand increases.
My wife and I both work in our own business and this at best would be a secondary business, and if it didnt take off, Id have a nice roaster.

Thanks for the very useful tips, this particular Roaster is now $11K NZ.

Cheers

Chris

[TC]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

HGs (depending upon the model) typically prefer to be charged no more than 60-75%

Not in my expreience. Were getting great results with a full 5kg charge, but can roast down to 1.5kg

Also, suggest you check out cooling times before you commit to a purchase

Easily fixed with an external cooler. Andy and I use the same one and with a full charge, Im at room temperature way quicker than that.

You also cant compare HGs to Diedrichs, Jopers, Probats or Giesens - they are in a different league in terms of build quality and in many respects what you get in the cup - if operated by experienced roasters (a contentious statement).

Big statement. Build quality- yes, to an extent, you get what you pay for. In the cup, there are a heap of Golden Bean awards to Garanti roasters as well as great results in competition. It comes down to whether you brown beans or profile them. Andys software makes profiling easy.

There have been many changes to HG roasters across the last couple of years. I your responses might be influenced by when you last used one ccc  :-?

Chris

[ccc2]

Re: Looking to buy a 2kg - 5kg roaster

5kg roaster is too small for a commercial business.

HGs (depending upon the model) typically prefer to be charged no more than 60-75% (as with a few different types of drum roasters) if you want to be able to control the roast cycle properly, so you are going to be sitting around waiting for small batches of beans to pop-out - sorry, just not viable to run it commercially unless you are charging big $$$ per kilo, or you are making your money on other things like a shop with a roaster in it as a nice piece of decoration, or you have another job that pays the bills.

Start with a 10kg as a minimum - theres not much difference in the price when you work it out on a kilo-cycle per hour basis.

Also, suggest you check out cooling times before you commit to a purchase - a very important consideration on HGs in particular. Go and roast a charge of 80% green and measure the cooling time - any longer than 3-4 mins on a medium roast with a medium density bean - go start asking questions.

You also cant compare HGs to Diedrichs, Jopers, Probats or Giesens - they are in a different league in terms of build quality and in many respects what you get in the cup - if operated by experienced roasters (a contentious statement).

[redzone121]

Hi All

I have been pestering a couple of site sponsors for quotes and shipping costs etc etc as I am looking to buy a 2kg-5kg Roaster to start a small commercial business.
Every one has been very helpfull thanks !
Does anyone have any feedback on this 5kg Has Garanti model, dont know much about it in terms of its history but looks like its in my price range $12-$15k NZ
Yes I would love to buy Dens but a little above my budget when converted to the mighty NZ dollar.
Any advice in general greatly appreciated !

Chris