Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

[Javaphile]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Hhhmmmm.....Id have to wonder if the culprit was in fact coffee oils. I find it hard to imagine there being enough oils coming out of the beans to actually work their way into the paddle bearing unless you were doing a lot of really dark roasts. More likely its the oil the unit shipped with or from its previous life as a bread maker that have been baked on by its use as a roaster. It will be interesting to see if this problem recurs now that all the residue has been removed. :-?


Java "Things that make you go hhhhmmmm..." phile

[Corretto]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise


Java Java Java, I cant believe you never gave the bowl a good scrub :-[

After a few roasts I throw the bowl in the dishwasher and it comes up shining and sparkling like a new one!

Well, almost

Glad to hear all is peachy again, and youre back in BM roasting Paradise [smiley=2vrolijk_08.gif]


Belinda

[JavaB]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Hhhmmmm.....Id have to wonder if the culprit was in fact coffee oils. I find it hard to imagine there being enough oils coming out of the beans to actually work their way into the paddle bearing unless you were doing a lot of really dark roasts. More likely its the oil the unit shipped with or from its previous life as a bread maker that have been baked on by its use as a roaster. It will be interesting to see if this problem recurs now that all the residue has been removed. :-?


Java "Things that make you go hhhhmmmm..." phile

Yep, it does seem strange, especially as I dont go more than about 30 seconds into second crack (well once I did----- but we dont talk about that!!)....

There is certainly quite a layer of coffee oils on the paddle, the shaft and a mix of burnt oil ( of some sort) in the bushings..... just brass sleeves, not roller or ball bearings.

Ill be keeping an eye on the paddle assembly bearing.... Im hoping you are right and it was old (relatively low temp oil) from its previous life - time will tell.

And if it is the original BM oil/grease others will no doubt share my fate

[JavaB]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Java Java Java, I cant believe you never gave the bowl a good scrub :-[

I do ... by hand with an enjo scrubber

After a few roasts I throw the bowl in the dishwasher and it comes up shining and sparkling like a new one!

In its original life the instructions said not to put the bowl in a dishwasher....
The bearings are sealed from inside (in theory) but on the outside (under the bowl) there is no seal.... so detergent would get in (and if Javaphile is correct) remove all the lubrication.

.....but I dont think that is an issue the way it is used now..... and might even be a good thing

[Corretto]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise


Ah well, I suppose it depends on the BM which bowls can and cant be put in the dishwasher.

But I dont think it can hurt. Lots of kitchen appliances arent meant to be put in the dishwasher according to the manufacturers instructions. It just arse covering really.


Belinda

[Thundergod]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

You could be rich if youve discovered a new glue.

[JavaB]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

You could be rich if youve discovered a new glue.

Well they say " a coffee will FIX anything" ;D

[rowdee]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Java Java Java, I cant believe you never gave the bowl a good scrub :-[

I do ... by hand with an enjo scrubber

After a few roasts I throw the bowl in the dishwasher and it comes up shining and sparkling like a new one!

In its original life the instructions said not to put the bowl in a dishwasher....
The bearings are sealed from inside (in theory) but on the outside (under the bowl) there is no seal.... so detergent would get in (and if Javaphile is correct) remove all the lubrication.

.....but I dont think that is an issue the way it is used now..... and might even be a good thing

I wipe mine out after every roast.

My instructions said the same thing and I have had mine for over 10 years, I think! When I used it for breadmaking I used to be very careful with it in terms of washing/cleaning. Now I am using it for roasting I dont wash it at all.

I have thought about the paddle seizing as well and check after every roast and it always moves really freely so suspect it is not the coffee oils.

[Cruiserman]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Why go to all the trouble of drilling a hole and tapping it for a grub screw, easy enough and if people want to do it You can send me all he paddles and Ill knock them over one lunch time in the workshop. However a simple 90 degree drill 2mm drill bit and a length of MIG wire or similar placed through the hole and twisted (I make it myself out the back with a little tvwist of limon (damn it is hard to type with a lisp)) would see the paddle firmly attached.

[Corretto]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Why go to all the trouble of drilling a hole and tapping it for a grub screw, easy enough and if people want to do it You can send me all he paddles and Ill knock them over one lunch time in the workshop. However a simple 90 degree drill 2mm drill bit and a length of MIG wire or similar placed through the hole and twisted (I make it myself out the back with a little tvwist of limon (damn it is hard to type with a lisp)) would see the paddle firmly attached.

You mean something like this person did here? http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1158893099

That seemed to work 8-)


Belinda

[Cruiserman]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Exackery, why build a crane to lift something that a simple lever will fix.

[Dimal]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Never wash my Corretto out either..... Coffee Roastmasters never wash out their commercial roasters, prefer to leave the built up oils, and solids develop into a kind of varnish that "seasons" the roast drum 8-). Sounds good to me

Mal.

[Corretto]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Never wash my Corretto out either..... Coffee Roastmasters never wash out their commercial roasters, prefer to leave the built up oils, and solids develop into a kind of varnish that "seasons" the roast drum 8-). Sounds good to me

Mal.

I kind of figure this seasoning happens anyway as evidenced by the slight brownness of the bowl. Im of the believe it doesnt need extra oils to contaminate future roasts. However in saying this it only gets a good clean after every 4 or 5 roasts.


Belinda

[Dimal]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

Im of the believe it doesnt need extra oils to contaminate future roasts.

This is not really an issue for me..... The deepest roast I do would never progress further than 20 seconds into rolling 2nd Crack and I dont do these very often, so there is never much in the way of oils to adhere to the pan anyway. Even after about 25-30 roasts now, there is only the slightest brownish haze building up on the lower section of the pan and the leading edges of the stirring paddles. Compared to my old popper (which is nearly black inside) it is almost pristine :P

Mal.

[rowdee]

Re: Trouble in Breadmaker Roasting Paradise

After reading this thread I had a good look at my paddle last night and it is really dark brown to about two thirds of the way up from the build up.

I may clean it at some point, do have a spare though that is pristine.

The bowl itself though is really good, slight discolouration but not much. I just give it a good wipe after every roast, havent actually washed it since I started roasting in it.