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    This thread is for the posting of basic information on bread makers and is intended to be used as a starting point for those looking at acquiring a bread maker for coffee roasting (aka Corretto).

    For ease of reading posts should be made using the following format:


    * Make / model
    * where/how did you acquire
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height)
    * minimum quantity roasted
    * maximum quantity roasted
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no
    * max run time without mod
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc)
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc)
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b]


    This thread is not for any discussion, only informational posts in the above format. Any posts made not of this type will be deleted.

    Unless you have some additional information about a machine that has already been covered please do not make an additional post.

    Please use the regular forum for any discussion or questions.

  • #2
    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

    * Make / model... Breville "Big Loaf" up to 1.5 Kg loaf of bread. How much coffee you ask
    * where/how did you acquire... Bought it years ago and still use it to make fresh bread.
    * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height)... Coming soon.
    * minimum quantity roasted... Have tried 150 grams but it gets tossed around very violently.
    * maximum quantity roasted... 600 grams to date, and it was a piece of cake, could probably double that weight.
    * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no... Yes it does, simple to do but needs a sparky.
    * max run time without mod... Only 12:30
    * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc).... Not needed so far.
    * location of temp probe and any issues re installing.... Not used so far, coming soon
    * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc).... Larger batches are definitely easier to do and work best without heat-spreader, smaller batches work better with.
    * photo of Bread maker (if possible)

    Mal.

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    • #3
      Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

      * Make / model .... Sunbeam Bakehouse
      * where/how did you acquire.... relocated from back of cupboard after its previous life as a breadmaker was no longer "in fashion"!
      * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height).... 14cm X 14cm X 16cm
      * minimum quantity roasted..... about 150 grams - just covered temp probe!
      * maximum quantity roasted ..... 600+ grams easily (might even make a kilo)
      * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no... Yes it does, simple to do but needs a sparky
      * max run time without mod..... 15 minutes
      * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc)..... the paddle must be shortened by 1 cm or it traps beans between the end of the paddle and the wall- and jams. When it is modded it cn be set so the paddle rotates in either direction - requires single pole, three position (centre off) switch
      * location of temp probe and any issues re installing ..... installed through the outer case, inner case and the bowl 1 cm above the base of the bowl and on the right hand side about 2cm from the corner of the bowl. The heater element does not have to be removed. A second hole could be drilled above the first for larger batches (again the heater does not have to be removed)
      * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) ..... this model and I assume any other with a small deep bowl concentrates the heat from the gun. A 2000W gun with the tip just below the edge heats the beans far faster than desired...... either raise the gun or reduce the heat for a better length roast. A fan blowing over the top of the BM and over the HG is also used during roasting.
      * photo of Bread maker

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      • #4
        Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

        * Make / model Breville BB250

        * where/how did you acquire Way too long ago to remember,

        * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) 13cm square at top & 16cm deep.

        * minimum quantity roasted 200g

        * maximum quantity roasted 500g

        * requires modding to run for sufficient time /no

        * max run time without mod 20 something minutes

        * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc) I havent had to do anything to it which has made it ideal. No probs with paddle movement, etc.

        * location of temp probe and any issues re installing: I have had two goes at this, the first from the back about 1.5cm from bottom of the bowl. Didnt give me accurate enough temp readings and paddle or beans would knock probe out of position, so came in from an angle to give maximum exposure to the probe. Works very well and because at an angle probe stays in position much better.

        * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) Because the bowl is narrow and deep I think this more effecient than a wider, shallower bowl. However, I dont know the measurements of others so only going on visuals.

        * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b]

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        • #5
          Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

          This thread is for the posting of basic information on bread makers and is intended to be used as a starting point for those looking at acquiring a bread maker for coffee roasting (aka Corretto).

          For ease of reading posts should be made using the following format:


          * Make / model Welbilt AMD600 about 180rpm metal body
          * where/how did you acquire: thrift store
          * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) added s.s pot on top 12" diameter x5.5" high(pic is before cut down from6.5"-5.5") w/CO top
          * minimum quantity roasted 150 grams/green
          * maximum quantity roasted 1 kilo/green
          * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no -yes
          * max run time without mod- not sure
          * comments re other mods required - extending mixer shaft and adding pot and new stir rod, on/off switch for stir motor added on front.
          * location of temp probe and any issues re installing low on side of pot
          * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) super even large roasts, love it
          * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b] link to pics and more info: http://coffee-roasting.blogspot.com/





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          • #6
            Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

            Make / model - Breville Ultimate Bakers Oven

            * where/how did you acquire - Purchased years ago and hasnt been used for bread in 2 years.  

            * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) 19.5cm x 14cm x 14.5cm deep.

            * minimum quantity roasted 300g

            * maximum quantity roasted  550g

            * requires modding to run for sufficient time - no, you can even use its controls to increase the kneed time up to 25min +

            * max run time without mod  20 something minutes

            * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc)  I havent had to do anything to it at all.

            * location of temp probe and any issues re installing:  I dont use a temp probe at all, i may do if i really want to be bothered worrying about it etc.

            * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc)  The sound of the beans hitting the bowl on full kneed (as opposed to agitation) means that you have to listen closely for all sounds etc. The larger the roast the quicker the noise is reduced as the beans expand etc.



            The full setup is shown below, beans are cooled in collanders sitting on bucket with lid and a GMC vac/blower attached and used on blow to force air up and through the collander. Beans are generally cooled in under 20 seconds or so.





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            • #7
              Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

              * Make / model - Palsonic PAB-3600
              * where/how did you acquire - ebay
              * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) -
              * minimum quantity roasted - 300g
              * maximum quantity roasted - 300g
              * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no - Yes (well to run continuously from the start)
              * max run time without mod - unknown
              * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc) - none required, but many done, see below (it no longer makes bread)
              * location of temp probe and any issues re installing - through the side of the tin
              * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc) - I chose this one because of the square bowl
              * photo of Bread maker (if possible)

              I have replaced the electronics with the control circuit from my old fluidised bed roaster. The output from the heat gun is controlled against a temperature profile loaded from excel. Ill post some more details of the mods.

              More pics
              http://picasaweb.google.com/DavidLPaget/PIDCorretto

              Image size reduced to 640x480 to make it easier to view in browser,
              Mal.

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              • #8
                Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

                Just viewed your slideshow on google... nice work indeed... well done

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                • #9
                  Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

                  Off topic replies have been moved to [link=http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1185455324]This Thread[/link]

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                  • #10
                    Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

                    Off topic replies have been moved to [link=http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1176799309/30#30]This Thread[/link]

                    Please restrict posts in this thread to the Title of the thread, i.e. Detailed Information/Reviews of specific Bread-Makers,

                    Thanks,
                    Mal.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

                      * Make / model... Breville Bakers Oven BB280
                      * where/how did you acquire... Bought from Breville factory second store in Redfern for half price
                      * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height)... 180*140*130mm
                      * minimum quantity roasted... 250g is probably a useful minimum
                      * maximum quantity roasted... 300g handled easily, probably could do up to 750g or more
                      * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no... Not really, just wait for the initial 2min intermittent stir to finish and then itll go for another 30 mins
                      * max run time without mod... 30 mins
                      * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc).... Not needed so far
                      * location of temp probe and any issues re installing.... top left of bowl, around 10mm from bottom of bowl, and no issues
                      * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc).... Have to remember to remove probe before removing bowl to avoid bent probe and there is a 3 second pause every 30 seconds during the continuous stir cycle but it doesnt appear to affect roast quality or evenness
                      * photo of Bread maker (if possible)


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                      • #12
                        Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

                        Hitachi HB-201 from thrift shop
                        15cm x 15cm x 25cm
                        125g > 225g
                        Unknown if it ever needed a modification as I did that right away
                        Shortened paddle b/c of some jamming
                        Temp probe put in bottom corner of bowk

                        Overall this seems to be good bread machine for coffee roasting.  I like the narrow bowl as it ensures the beans all stay agitated - I get very even roasts.  In addition its very roomy inside the case for mods.




                        http://www.tracezero.net/Beer/2008/1...ter-version-2/

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                        • #13
                          Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers


                          * Make / model: Temp "Cafe Essentials" Bread Maker
                          * where/how did you acquire: Sams Warehouse
                          * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height): 13cm x 11.5cm x 10cm
                          * minimum quantity roasted: N/A
                          * maximum quantity roasted N/A
                          * requires modding to run for sufficient time yes/no: Yes
                          * max run time without mod: 10 min
                          * comments re other mods required (shortened paddle etc): NA
                          * location of temp probe and any issues re installing: Hole Drilled Straight through the side.
                          * any general comments re use (deep bowl - heats faster etc)
                          Utter rubbish Once internal temp of bowl hits 150 degrees the motor shuts down. Hopefully other CS members wont try the cheap option like I did ($40).

                          Posting this up as a warning for new Corretto roasters (like myself :P) so they dont have this happen to them.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

                            * Panasonic SD206
                            * My parents replaced it with a Breville as the felt that the motor
                              had lost its grunt
                            *  13x18x16cm (WxLxD)
                            * one roast of 250gms at this stage
                            * Unknown, expect well in excess of 500gms to be no problem
                            * Yes, requires modding, dough cycle pulses for some time, then  kneads  
                              from 10-20 minutes (instruction manual)Rewired with power &
                              start switches
                            * Also required shortened paddle
                            * Drilled body & pan, inserted metal tube so probe enters pan thru
                              small hole
                            * will post photo of machine later

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                            • #15
                              Re: Information/Reviews of Bread-makers

                              Got myself going with corretto a couple of weeks ago and thought I would post my set up:

                              * Make / model Lumina XBM 1089 (Aldi special)
                              * where/how did you acquire, evil bay $17
                              * Heat Gun- Bunnings Ozito 2000w 2 sp Variable temp
                              * internal size of bowl (width, depth, height) really big with dual paddels
                              * minimum quantity roasted so far 400g
                              * maximum quantity roasted so far 600
                              * requires modding to run for sufficient time Kind of wanted more control of off and on of paddles
                              * max run time without mod about 14 min before resting
                              * comments re other mods required, yes had to shorten the paddles
                              * location of temp probe and any issues re installing, not done that yet
                              * any general comments re use I like the dual paddles and big pan
                              * photo of Bread maker (if possible)[/b]

                              I love it. I used popper befor BM but BM is sooooo much better. Not sure how to add caption to photos but you get the picture Im sure.











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