Gene Cafe V Hottop

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Re: Gene Cafe V Hottop

so I got my gene cafe today from 2mcm did a roast this arvo with the beans that 2mcm sent with the machine. (A pleasant surprise that I wasnt expecting. Thanks ) I hit the cool button a little earlier then recomended because they were getting darker then I usually like and were about a minute into rolling second crack.  Im yet to play a bit more with it but so far im happy especially with the ease of use compared to setting up the popper with the back door open and a cooling fan and broom to sweep up after and a colander to cool with all to do less then a 100gm batch if I wanted anymore then a 5minute roast. the gene is a dream.

Great to hear that all went well mm!

Gene Cafes (and Hottops for that matter) are not created quite equal. There is a little variation in my two roasters as well.

Follow the usual signs as well as your instincts with your roasts. I find I hit the cool button a little earlier into the progression of the roast than I would with a hottop as I ease my beans into second crack...

Enjoy your new roaster! They are a great piece of kit 8-)/\/

2mcm

[Mocha_Zarba]

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Does anybody have any info on the New programmable Hottop ! , when will it be released, what will be the R.R.P and will there be a review on this forum, A lot of people seem to be tight lipped !.


MZ

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Does anybody have any info on the New programmable Hottop ! , when will it be released, what will be the R.R.P and will there be a review on this forum,  A lot of people seem to be tight lipped !.  

MZ

Yes MZ, Andy had his at last weekends bean day. Looks impressive but apparrently still suffers when you try back to back...as the old ones do.

Aust price is looking to be circa $1500 but I understand that retail units are still some time away

2mcm

[Mocha_Zarba]

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Thanks for that 2mcm.

Are you sure about the $1500 price tag !. Is he still doing a review. >

MZ

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Thanks for that 2mcm.

Are you sure about the $1500 price tag !. Is he still doing a review.  >

MZ

Yeppers MZ- or you can convert your digital model for something like US $600 ...

Andys programmable Hottop is #1 off the line...Im sure that there will be a review soon. What Id really like to see though is something like a 1kg version of the Hottop or the Gene- and I want it for under $2k....Easy to please arent I? ;D

[grendel]

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2MCM I think you are on to something there though, a 1kg roaster - scaled up from either the Hot or the Gene would be hugely popular with home roasters - and with cafes. I reckon even a few professional roasters would leap at the chance for a 1kg sample roaster for under $2k.

[muppet_man67]

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this is what the cafe industry needs for a real shake up. 8-) if they could keep up with 5-10 roasts a day then they would soon pay themselves off and youd have great coffee. 8-)

[Mocha_Zarba]

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Hi 2mcm,

According to Hottop USA ( this morning ) the Australian version Programmable Hottop is now available, are you the Australian distributor, if so how long would it take to get one in and is there a special coffeesnob price. :-/


MZ

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Will see what I can find out MZ....I wouldnt expect too much (if any) change out of $1.5k if I was you...

Chris

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MZ- No response from Jack- the Australian rep for Hottop....That must be why they sell so many to CS members.... :

Tell the truth- you want a Gene and a dinner for 4 at Vue De Monde with the change instead anyway :P

[Mocha_Zarba]

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2mcm,

Hottop USA have told me that Shelly (Hottop) has emailed me with the information that I have requested !, have not received any such email, still waiting, waiting, waiting and waiting. Im getting a bit sick of this Harry Potter stuff (chamber of secrets) the programmable Hottop must have some serious issues!! Might have to stick with my trusty popper.

MZ

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2mcm,

Hottop USA have told me that Shelly (Hottop) has emailed me with the information  that I have requested !, have not received any such email, still waiting, waiting, waiting and waiting. Im getting a bit sick of this Harry Potter stuff (chamber of secrets) the programmable Hottop must have some serious issues!! Might have to stick with my trusty popper.

MZ  

yeah MZ- Its like they are trying not to sell them :

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I have received 5 Gene Cafe from Serge today. 4 remaining.

We will extend complimentary delivery to any CSer who would like one and purchase before close of trade on Friday 13th. $780 delivered to your door...I have dumped Hottop from Talk Coffee range....Too hard  :

Chris

[Baristacrat]

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According to Hottop USA ( this morning ) the Australian version Programmable Hottop is now available MZ

Hi MZ

As a digital Hottop owner/life partner, I am wondering [ignorantly wthout ever having seen one in action] what the benefits of a programmable machine are. IMHO, having progressed up the ranks from heatgun roasting to this level of roaster, the process is still somewhat hands on. Given so many signifiers of the individual bean type are variable in the roasting process, I stick fairly close to my machine during every roast,  especially toward the end, to make sure that I dont miss the crack point that I am after.

So, if I am assuming correctly that the programmable Hottops are suposedly a more sophisticated and intuitive machine, I cant see how they can avoid the variables of ambient temperature, bean type variation etc and the need for supervision for an optimum roast.

My point, in a rambling way, is that if you are going for this type of machine, the digital is great and you will save $500 on the cost of the programmable from the get go. I roast up to 400gms at a time (this is not everyones experience of the machine, but mine is a high achiever) and the gap between roasts for cooling is about 30 minutes. So you can crank out a couple of kilos in a couple of hours while reading the paper and admiring your new brown stockpile.

This is possibly all academic as no one seemingly wants to sell the Hottops,   and the Gene cafes appear to be the new black  8-) ( and appear come with a free dinner date with 2MCM to Vue de Monde  ;D ) Good luck and happy roastin  - whatever method you choose.

Baristacrat.

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Wed love to sell em Baristacrat......if taiwan would supply them :. Last years batch were a service- i.e. no margin. Serge has secured relaible supply of the Gene from Korea and it works really well. So I guess it is the new black because the old black faded til it no nonger existed  

2mcm