Fluid bed roaster

[L_pena]

Re: Fluid bed roaster

Not sure what makes this guy a "master" roaster, one of the other staff referred to him as this.. so i was too.

Looks like a the gene cafe roaster maybe a sensible and affordable option though.
Rancho.

[luca]

Re: Fluid bed roaster

Had a chat with the master roaster and informed me that this is their primary roaster doing 1kg batches at a time. The setup allowed him to tweak the roast profile very accurately and repetitively, I was also told. Having never come across anything like this before I was very impressed and so drawn to it, WOW, very high tech!

Just an aside; what makes this guy a master roaster? Does he have an apprentice?

what do you think? I wonder how a similar setup could be created for home use.....

You need the ability to regulate airflow + heat to the airflow. Home roasters have achieved both of these things by split-wiring the fan and element on a popcorn popper and then rigging up the thing with various controllers - dimmer switch, PID, etc.

Cheers,

Luca

[Fresh_Coffee]

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Throwing some numbers at the $30k and if you work on $30/kg for Brown retail and give the Roaster 10% or $3/kg of that only 1000kg needed for payback. 20kg/week for a year and it is yours for free

Still a 20k+ premium for  8-) on a 1kg roaster is a bit much.

Unfortunately the above equation does not take in consideration the "real cost" of running a business....

In any case the issue is, that very few small coffee roasting machines replicate what a good commercial sized roasting machine does.  Take a look at the price of a Probat or Brambati sample roaster....you will pay in excess of $AUS10,000.00 for machines that roast no more than 300 grams.

It is the same in every industry, if you want "quality" you have to pay for it.

Regardz,
Attilio, confirmed high end european roasting machine supporter and
first / original CS site sponsor.

[beanflying]

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Interesting link the Probat Saturn looks functionally like the one up the top?

[Dimal]

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As you can see from this selection of roasters by Probat, theres more than one way to roast a bean, even in a commercial environment...

Mal.

[acoggins]

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Personal preference of course, but I would be more wowed by your typical commercial roaster, that actually looks like a coffee roaster.

This thing instead looks like it should be in some labaratory somewhere.

[L_pena]

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The winery/restaurant/cafe is massive place, by the looks of it they have spent so much money on the hole set up that, 20k+ on a roster wouldnt be a lot money(for them). I think it has such WOW factor, but at the end of the day its really up to the master roaster to bring out the best in the beans.

as for building one, dont think ill evan attempt to make something like this.
Rancho.

[Ray_C]

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Personally, I really like my little rottie oven setup, auto cooling, and very little supervision required, just to listen for first crack then turn on exhaust fan dial temp back and then listen for second crack, reverse direction, and then cooling comences. Too easy really.......... I love it.

Ray.

[beanflying]

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Throwing some numbers at the $30k and if you work on $30/kg for Brown retail and give the Roaster 10% or $3/kg of that only 1000kg needed for payback. 20kg/week for a year and it is yours for free

Still a 20k+ premium for 8-) on a 1kg roaster is a bit much.

[seedlings]

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Someone already made this???? Aw, crap.

CHAD

[Koffee_Kosmo]

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I will stick to my current turbo oven project for a build cost of less than $100.00 AU

And I am sure it will roast 1kg without much trouble

But his looks more snobish

KK

[martybean]

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I think someone had to much money buying a roaster that does 1 kg batches for $30,000 it would take a long time to turn a profit.

[acoggins]

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They may tell the customer when they buy them freshly roasted, that theyre best to rest for a couple of days.

Of course, if the customer is buying it pre-ground then Id say the consensus here would be to consume it by the time you get home.

As a funny/disturbing aside, I just noticed on a speciality coffee business website located in a bayside suburb of Melbourne, offering advice that their beans can keep for up to 8 weeks if pre-ground. Yikes!

[speleomike]

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Hi all

What I dont follow is that the site says Fresh coffee can be prepared "just in time" in the presence of the customer. That is - no week of waiting for the beans to stabilise or develop their chemistry. Whats with that? Drum roasters produce greeny or not quite great beans in the first days let alone minutes after roasting. Or does this only apply to drum roasting and not to fluidised bed, fast roasting?

Mike

[grimsby]

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Thats a really cool roaster.
But at 30k+ aussie dollars, I think Ill stick with the Corretto.