Behmor

[hiker]

Re: Behmor

Hi Andy

I have ordered 2 x Behmor roasters but the total amount only shows $399.00 ..... so I have placed 2 orders with 2 separate invoice numbers to avoid confusion

thanks
hiker

[Andy]

Re: Behmor

Glad there are lots of happy CSrs.

Some of the roasters were test and tagged on New Years day (pretty cool getting a sparkie to work on a public holiday) and the rest were done yesterday so they are all ready to ship.

Geekrocket had to make changes in BeanBay so the "package" would work. That took most of the day and night... huge effort!

So as always, there are lots of pieces that make the whole thing come together.

I have ordered 2 x Behmor roasters but the total amount only shows $399.00

Nice find, a bug that we didnt see. Will suss it out, ta.

[cksyd]

Re: Behmor

Done and paid for.

Thanks again Andy, a terrific deal and I cant wait to have a crack, particularly with that tidbit about volume=profile changes.

Cheers

Chris

[sniffta]

Re: Behmor

Couldnt pass up on such a fantastic deal (couldnt behmor happy with the price :) my wife reluctantly agreed. Cant wait to get a hold of it and get roasting.

[phrostyboi]

Re: Behmor

that offer is mean mean mean.... why must I be so tempted by more shiney things

wonder if I can con the parents into a birthday pressie halving 6 months in advance :P

[maheel]

Re: Behmor

can i ask about the / any warranty? I have had a look at CS and Behmor.com and there is a warranty registration area but no info on how long etc?

thanks
Leeham

[flynnaus]

Re: Behmor

On the Warranty Registration page, there is a link to a PDF doc which shows the warranty to be the usual 12 months.

[Andy]

Re: Behmor


Yeah, thats correct. The Behmor has a 12 month "common sense" warranty. If you did something silly... bad luck, if materials or manufacturing caused the problem they will repair, replace or send you the parts to fix it.

You REALLY have to read the manual. There are cleaning routines and common sense maintanance requirements (like all devices) that should be followed for safety, performance and longevity of the roaster.

You SHOULD read the latest manuals and their revisions at:
http://www.behmor.com/manual.html

The roaster that we have had for 18 months has roasted something like 60-80kg of coffee without any warranty issues and other Behmor distributors around the world that I have spoken to have had very few "real" returns.

By the way, the online "Warranty Registration" is optional under Australian law. We have record of when you bought your roaster and
Behmor will accept that the warranty period starts from then.

[maheel]

Re: Behmor

Thanks Andy and Flynn

cheers
Leeham

[Pavoniboy]

Re: Behmor

deliver me from temptation...oops, too late...just bought one.

[GregJW]

Re: Behmor

Fantastic deal, Andy.

Im a committed (in more ways than one) Corretto roaster, but the apparent ease of use of the Behmor and great CS price makes this very attractive.

A few questions:

*With the pre-programmed settings, can you get a roast profile where SC is extended about 6 mins after first crack? (The settings would appear to rush it through - ramping up through to SC - counter-intuitive to me.)
*Does it cool the beans quickly enough (eg 3-4 mins)? The programmes allow 8-13 mins! (I note the manual suggests opening the door for a quicker cool down. Or is it possible to "tip" the beans out for external cooling?)
*Is the wire drum the "small bean" one (eg for Yemen)?
*And the manual recommends against roasting "high chaff" beans - Yemen?
*Any way to attach a thermoprobe to record bean temps?

I understand it has been built to a price point and expecting some commercial standards is unrealistic. For the price, however, it appears to offer great convenience and a 1lb (450g) roast-load. The question for me is, will it deliver as good a roast as the Corretto (and will I miss pulling out the breadmaker, heatgun, stand, vacuum cleaner, bucket, colanders, DMM, timer, etc every time)? Hmm, decisions.

Thanks,
Greg

[crazyroaster]

Re: Behmor

Cool,  I ordered one yesterday and have it today - excellent service!  Looking forward to trying it out very soon...

[Andy]

Re: Behmor

Cool,I ordered one yesterday and have it today - excellent service!  

Thanks!  We strive to get everything out as soon as the payments appear in our accounts and we use some great freight companies which help with the overall process.

A few questions:

Definition: few(a): more than one but indefinitely small in number




I guess I should also state... these answers are my thoughts and opinions, not those of Behmor-USA.

*With the pre-programmed settings, can you get a roast profile where SC is extended about 6 mins after first crack? (The settings would appear to rush it through - ramping up through to SC - counter-intuitive to me.)

We gave BehmorUSA similar feedback more than a year ago.  I think the profiles of this and lots of other roasters with fix-program profiles are pretty dumb.  The saving grace on the Behmor is P2, which has a good curve with the exception of the super-mega-turbo-100% bit at the end.  So the CSrs workaround is to adjust the amount of beans so the roast finishes before the big ramp-up and then you can manually hit the cooling cycle.

*Does it cool the beans quickly enough (eg 3-4 mins)?

With the door closed the cooling cycle is long, maybe too long but like some other home roasters you can plan to cool earlier allowing for the overrun.  I do think it has a much better cooling cycle with the door ajar but that comes with the cost of a bit of chaff and a little smoke.  Still less of both than a breadmaker and FAR less than a popcorn machine.

Or is it possible to "tip" the beans out for external cooling?

Nup.  The roaster (as per the manual) needs to run the full cooling cycle (to avoid damage) and the drum is HOT so removing it would be dangerous, tricky and not advised.

*Is the wire drum the "small bean" one?  

Yep but being a wire mesh I guess you could still find a bean small enough to get stuck... which is the same potential issue in all perforated drum roasters.

*And the manual recommends against roasting "high chaff" beans?

Yes, the manual was obviously written for the litigious American market and I assume this is to lessen the chance of roaster fires (which would be true of any roaster).  On the Behmor I have roasted plenty of chaffy beans (dry processed or semi washed) and they were fine.  The chaff tray cleverly collects most of the chaff at the front door, the furthest point from the heat and it doesnt get "toasty brown" like some other roasters do.

*Any way to attach a thermoprobe to record bean temps?

Short answer is no.  Longer answer is I have an idea for a modification that might just work but would involve a fair amount of hack and chop.  Just the sort of project that would make an interesting thread on CoffeeSnobs!

I understand it has been built to a price point and expecting some commercial standards is unrealistic.

Phew, common sense is pretty rare on some internet forums... obviously not here though!
8-)

For the price, however, it appears to offer great convenience

I know the Behmor package we are offering is amazing value, its the first time that the home roasting device has come down to the domestic appliance price-point.  A price that we would expect to see in a white goods store or your favourite kitchenware shop.

This is a convenience appliance.  Its a great introduction to roasting and proves that you can roast your own coffee at home and get good results... results well in front of most what your local cafes have served you.

If you want to tweak profiles, collate lots of data and turn your home roasting setup into a science lab then this isnt the device you should use.  ...although I guess its only a matter of time before a tinkering CoffeeSnob will buy one just to see how much they can fiddle and tweak it.

The Behmor is best suited to those that want a cheap, no fuss, non whacky contraption way of roasting enough coffee for an average couples weekly consumption in one batch.  Its very quiet to run, does a great job of burning-off most of the smoke during roasting and in just half an hour on the verandah each week the Behmor will deliver plenty of fresh roasted coffee for home use.

What was that about "a few questions"?

Phew!

8-)

[barrel]

Re: Behmor

We gave Behmor Inc similar feedback more than a year ago.  I think the profiles of this and lots of other roasters with fix-program profiles are pretty dumb.  The saving grace on the Behmor is P2, which has a good curve with the exception of the super-mega-turbo-100% bit at the end.  So the CSrs workaround is to adjust the amount of beans so the roast finishes before the big ramp-up and then you can manually hit the cooling cycle.

More or less beans Andy? and I assume you extend the roast time out to hold off the ramp as long as possible.

[GregJW]

Re: Behmor

What was that about "a few questions"?

Phew!

Thanks, Andy. Good feedback.

BTW - I had a few more questions, but I thought it might be too much. ;D

Good luck with it. At that price, it looks a winner.

Greg